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Here's some feedback on the live new site. I'm very short on time (and it's |
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very late) so please bear with me. |
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The top portion where the sitemap link is now, is supposed to be the url of |
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the current site. It is a site level indicator, because we will have many |
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sites such as bugs.gentoo.org, forums.gentoo.org, etc., that indicator will |
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tell the user which site they're on. |
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Please follow the design templates with regards to headings, lists, bullets, |
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paragraphs, etc. |
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The Main Index page: "what's new" - wrong font; the headlines/excerpts - no |
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hr bar; date column - missing bg, main nav - please follow structure as |
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outlined by Sven...too many items and things blow up on smallers screens. |
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The actual news article page is supposed to look like a Guide Page Template, |
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with the article title, author, excerpt, date in the purple box, and the |
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full article below. The 3 jump pads are supposed to be only present on the |
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Main Index page and no where else. |
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Other pages: main headings - wrong font...supposed to be the green ones as |
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per Guide Page Template; subheadings - wrong font and there isn't supposed |
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to be a green arrow...supposed to be purple as per GPT. The layout is |
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completely broken in IE, I realize you're trying the author list in sidebar |
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layout, but what happened to the doc bar and the section indicators? |
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One of the main problems with the current (old) site is navigating the site, |
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going up/down the information chain, etc., by getting rid of the interface I |
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put in place in the new design, we're back to square one. There is no way |
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of going up one level unless someone starts over from the top level down |
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again. I.e. Home > some main category > some subcategory > some article > |
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some page of article, if you're reading the article page, you can't go to |
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any of the levels between it and Home, unless you go Home (or to a main |
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category level) and dig your way all the way back down to where you |
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want...does that make sense? The interface that was in the design template |
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is crucial to avoiding this problem. The site level indicator tells the |
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user which site he's one and provides an easy way to go back to top level, |
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the section indicators tell the user which section he's in, the breadcrumbs |
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allows for navigation anywhere within the chain of info flow...all these |
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things work together like a GPS... |
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Here's a test, suppose someone who has never been to the Gentoo site saw a |
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screenshot of page in a magazine, but no URL cause the magazine editor cut |
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out the browser location bar. Can he easily arrive at the same place as in |
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the screenshot with no full URL anywhere at all? With the new design, all |
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they have to do is look at the site level indicator (www.gentoo.org, |
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bugs.gentoo.org, whatever) and enter that into their browser, look at the |
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section indicator to find the main category and click that on the main nav |
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bar, look at the breadcrumbs and get to where they need to go, and finally |
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the article title and main headings will get them to the exact |
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page/paragraph. That's something that's impossible with both the current |
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site and Michael's current live new site. |
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Furthermore, if the template guidelines are not followed, then the print CSS |
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won't work as it is based on cascading after the other CSS and overwriting |
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the necessary rules. |
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I haven't had time to make the changes requested with regards to how to |
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display long lists of authors and finalizing the code segment displays. |
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Once I do that, I will create a design and style usage guideline for |
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templating work. In the mean time, Michael's done a good job giving us a |
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live environment to preview, but please for the time being follow the |
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templates that I created. Do not change the nature of the templates or the |
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functionality of the site, but rather present the content using the |
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templates already created. I thought since the code is all structure based |
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now that we've stripped presentation into CSS, it would be clear what |
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elements are used for what (i.e. h1 for doc title, h2 for main headings, h3 |
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for subheadings, etc.), but I should've probably created more documentation |
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to detail their usage. |
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Btw, that site map is huge!!! Wow. I think we're going to have to figure |
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out a way to display all that info, but it's a good start. At least now we |
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know what we're up against. ;) |
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Keep up the good work Michael, I realize this probably isn't the feedback |
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you're looking for, but it's important to make sure the foundations are |
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right before we go ahead and build the rest of the house. ;) |
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-Aaron |
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> -----Original Message----- |
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> From: Michael Curtis Napier [mailto:curtis119@×××××.com] |
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> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:27 PM |
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> To: www-redesign@l.g.o |
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> Subject: [www-redesign] Site Map |
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> I started on the Site Map today. I am the coach of my oldest |
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> kid's basketball team and we had practice today so I couldn't |
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> put as much time into it as I had hoped. I have the |
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> Documentation section to a workable point. I'm not going any |
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> further with this until I get some feedback. |
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> The Site Map is an index to the entire gentoo site. Part of |
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> this redesign is to "redesign" the way the site is layed out. |
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> Not just visually but how the pages are grouped togeter as well. |
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> I propose that each major category of the Site Map be a link |
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> to that categories index. This index will be a short |
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> description of what you can find in this category and a |
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> category index. In essence, each category index is just the |
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> Site Map with actual content pages linked from it. The |
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> category index will have no real information other than to |
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> index it's contents. |
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> Once I get some feedback on the layout of this map I will |
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> start creating the rest of it and the individual category index's. |
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> curtis119.no-ip.org |
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> The Site Map is linked to in the upper right hand corner of each page. |
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> It replaces the link to www.gentoo.org. The upper right |
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> gentoo logo already takes you there anyway. |
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