Gentoo Archives: www-redesign

From: Chris Case <macguyvok@×××××.com>
To: www-redesign@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [www-redesign] a couple of comments
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:00:48
Message-Id: e8860270512110200i4f054d37tc4fd9fcac8f58b0e@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [www-redesign] a couple of comments by Aaron Shi
1 Might I make a suggestion of limiting the news items on the front page to
2 two or three? It would help to clean up the front page a bit. Other than
3 that, it's quite a nice site.
4
5 On 12/11/05, Aaron Shi <aaron@××××××××.com> wrote:
6 >
7 > Wow, took a quick peek and everything looks much nicer.
8 >
9 > A couple of things (here it goes):
10 >
11 > --1--
12 > > When I saw the e-mail icon next to the print icon, my first
13 > > thought was that it was a "send-a-link" button, since that's
14 > > pretty common on news sites. Having it represent a mailto:
15 > > link instead might be potentially confusing. Anybody else think that?
16 >
17 > It is misleading and counter intuitive. The original reference was for
18 > "send-a-link," but to do that it requires javascript and hence that's
19 > probably why it was changed to a static mailto: link.
20 >
21 > --2--
22 > > There are a few other minor changes as well. Link colors have
23 > > been made more consistant: purple on white for content areas
24 > > and white on purple in the menu bar. All links turn green on
25 > > :hover. These color combinations pass the color-blind test,
26 > > look really good and are consistant.
27 >
28 > The green was intended for on the dark purple background on the top bar or
29 > bolded text headings. It is not intended for unbold non-heading text on
30 > white background or on light purple background (especially hard to see,
31 > e.g.
32 > hover ad links on the ad bar). Also, the ad images have dotted underlines
33 > under them, they shouldn't.
34 >
35 > --3--
36 > > The top level menu (main, planet, forums, etc...) had an
37 > > issue. The green arrow designates which site you are on. If
38 > > you are on planet.gentoo.org then PLANET would be first in
39 > > line with the green arrow. I spaced the first word out more
40 > > to make it more obvious. The link colors were changed to
41 > > white with green hover to be consistant with the site-wide
42 > > color scheme and also to pass the color blind test.
43 >
44 > Hmm...we shouldn't changed the menu order on the users. It creates
45 > confusion and slows down the workflow because they'd have to double-check
46 > the position of the links before clicking due to them changing. How
47 > about,
48 > current site = white link, other sites = dimmer (i.e. light purple). Also
49 > the green arrow doesn't vertically align with the text as in the
50 > reference,
51 > not sure why merely changing colors would also change the
52 > positioning. The
53 > font looks a tad different, maybe that's why.
54 >
55 > --4--
56 > > I like this version much better. It's all coming together, and
57 > > I give my thumbs up for a release of this as soon as the minor
58 > > bugs are worked out. (Not like it matters, but as an average gentoo
59 > > user, I applaud you, and everyone else!)
60 >
61 > > Yes, let's see this before X-Mas 2005! It would be a nice X-mas
62 > > present to the community!
63 >
64 > I'd strong advise against releasing an unpolished product and patching up
65 > known-bugs later (i.e. pull a Microsoft). Since this is a major event,
66 > there will undoubtly be additional coverage and it would not look good if
67 > we
68 > launched it at sub par quality (Gentoo critics would totally capitalize on
69 > it).
70 >
71 > --5--
72 > > Chapters are the green and a larger font size and sections
73 > > are dark purple and a little smaller. It looks good at the
74 > > moment and (more or
75 > > less) matches the reference design.
76 >
77 > Looks good, my only concern with this and the other color changes is where
78 > the colors came from. Are they part of the color scheme? The dark purple
79 > sub headings, while the text is of higher contrast (is it necessary?), it
80 > over shadows the green heading (even though the green heading is larger),
81 > this is because the apparent brightness is inconsistent. The purple in
82 > the
83 > reference looks more balanced. The headings (green, purple, and doc
84 > heading
85 > at top in the light purple box) could be a little bigger as our default
86 > text
87 > is bigger.
88 >
89 > --6--
90 > On the front page, there's a light purple space below between the content
91 > area and the footer bar. To the right of the line where it says "#103610
92 > -
93 > yaboot-static claims incorrectly that /proc/device-tree broken is in the
94 > 2.6.12 kernel series", the ad bar is shifted by 1 pixel to the right (this
95 > is barely noticeable but very odd).
96 >
97 > --7--
98 > The front page looks over crowded, I think this is mostly a spacing issue
99 > (or lack of). Giving the purple bar headings a padding and putting more
100 > space between each news item may help a little temporarily. The "More
101 > News"
102 > link needs to be more prominent, right now it just looks like part of the
103 > last news item.
104 >
105 > --etc.--
106 > The table borders might look better in a purple (right now it appears
107 > black
108 > or very dark gray).
109 >
110 > The XML buttons have dotted underlines, within a sentence it looks okay,
111 > but
112 > on its own it looks strange (the underline sticks right to the bottom of
113 > it,
114 > essentially same problem as ad images). This is probably a line height
115 > issue.
116 >
117 > The ad column's purple doesn't quite match the light gray portion on the
118 > footer which connects to it. The purple looks nice too, I can probably
119 > change the footer graphic later to match the purple.
120 >
121 >
122 >
123 > Overall good work Curtis, this is coming together nicely! The progress has
124 > been huge in the last couple of weeks.
125 >
126 >
127 > Aaron
128 >
129 > --
130 > www-redesign@g.o mailing list
131 >
132 >
133
134
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136 Christopher S. Case
137 SUNY Fredonia
138 Computer Science / Computer Engineering
139 macguyvok@×××××.com
140 (716) 785 - 5553(Cellphone)
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142 "To err is human. To forgive, divine.
143 To fix mistakes, now that's an Engineer."
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Re: [www-redesign] a couple of comments Curtis Napier <curtis119@g.o>