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From: Beso <givemesugarr@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of.
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 13:19:11
Message-Id: d257c3560805300619v2631c50exe0dfa95ea11e2c34@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of. by Mark Haney
1 2008/5/30 Mark Haney <mhaney@××××××××××××.org>:
2
3 > Beso wrote:
4 >
5 >> 2008/5/30 Beso <givemesugarr@×××××.com>:
6 >>
7 >> 2008/5/30 Mark Haney <mhaney@××××××××××××.org>:
8 >>>
9 >>> Beso wrote:
10 >>>>
11 >>>> 2008/5/29 Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann@××××××××××××.de
12 >>>>> >:
13 >>>>>
14 >>>>> On Donnerstag, 29. Mai 2008, Mark Haney wrote:
15 >>>>>
16 >>>>>> Do I NEED kde-meta-4.0 installed? The HOWTO says otherwise. I'd
17 >>>>>>
18 >>>>>>> prefer
19 >>>>>>> to have a chance to fall back on to 3.5.9 if I need to.
20 >>>>>>>
21 >>>>>>> you can have kde-meta-4.0.4 and kde3.5.9 installed at the same time.
22 >>>>>> I
23 >>>>>> do...
24 >>>>>> --
25 >>>>>> gentoo-amd64@l.g.o mailing list
26 >>>>>>
27 >>>>>>
28 >>>>>> you aren't forced to have it installed but since the deps aren't
29 >>>>>> fully
30 >>>>>>
31 >>>>> ok
32 >>>>> nowadays the kdebase-meta-4.0.4 is good to be installed. and since it's
33 >>>>> a
34 >>>>> slotted install (as almost all gentoo major bump versions or even minor
35 >>>>> in
36 >>>>> some cases as python, gcc, java, autotools and autoconf for example)
37 >>>>> they
38 >>>>> are likely to not interfere with each others. you'll just have to make
39 >>>>> a
40 >>>>> copy of your .kde folder. the first time you'll login the system will
41 >>>>> create
42 >>>>> a .kde3.5, a .kde4 and a .kde symlink in your home directory. the first
43 >>>>> is
44 >>>>> the config for the 3.5 enviroment, the second for the kde4 one and the
45 >>>>> symlink points to the last environment you've used and after login is
46 >>>>> pointing to the in use environment. if you haven't started yet kde4 and
47 >>>>> find
48 >>>>> a .kde4 folder in your home directory then move it elsewhere and retry
49 >>>>> a
50 >>>>> login after installing the kdebase-meta-4.0.4. this is the minimum
51 >>>>> required
52 >>>>> package along with kdebase-startkde-4.0.4 to be able to use kde4. if
53 >>>>> you
54 >>>>> don't like it then just remove the kde4 slot packages and you'll stay
55 >>>>> with
56 >>>>> kde3.5. just remember that a qt rebuild needs a kdelibs rebuild: the
57 >>>>> qt4
58 >>>>> needs also the kdelibs-3.5.x rebuild to have the qt4 apps still
59 >>>>> working
60 >>>>> in
61 >>>>> the correct way (lastfm would display only broken stuff without kdelibs
62 >>>>> rebuild after a qt4 upgrade/rebuild), while the qt3 doesn't need a
63 >>>>> kdelibs-4.0.4 rebuild, but only a kdelibs-3.5.x one. i'd also advice
64 >>>>> you
65 >>>>> to
66 >>>>> leave the 4.0.4 branch and test the 4.1 beta one (seems to be better in
67 >>>>> terms of quality and usability than 4.0.4 one).
68 >>>>>
69 >>>>>
70 >>>>> Hey, I'll all for testing 4.1, but how do I get it? I don't see it in
71 >>>> portage?
72 >>>>
73 >>>> there's a thread on the forum about installing the 4.1 beta 1 on
74 >>> gentoo. i
75 >>> think that in the next weeks the rc might hit portage in the second half
76 >>> of
77 >>> june.
78 >>>
79 >>>
80 >>> forgotten the thread link:
81 >>
82 >> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5106540.html#5106540
83 >>
84 >>
85 >>
86 >>
87 >> Thanks for the URL. I've never dealt with overlays before, but I"m open
88 > to it. My question is, if I use the kde4.1 overlay how do I get rid of it,
89 > when the time comes that 4.1 is in portage? If I delete the overlay does
90 > that delete the packages that were installed with it? I read the UG on it,
91 > but it wasn't very clear.
92 >
93
94 you unistall it and install the new slot. the kde 4.1 should have the kde4
95 slot while the kde4.1 beta has the kde4-live slot. you can clearly see that
96 they're different slots and that removing one doesn't prevent you from using
97 the other. anyway, in my opinion that overlay will die after the kde4.1 will
98 hit portage or soon after that.
99
100 --
101 dott. ing. beso

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