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From: "Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <aenertia@××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Wifi adaptor recommendations
Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 05:05:43
Message-Id: CAKiAkGRuSY82PBj3BFYP8LKf-2VLN0JvhFx2KneYNDE+kQrkRQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Wifi adaptor recommendations by "Joel Wirāmu Pauling"
1 G not N. Rather, if you have G only (or b for that matter) it causes the
2 old long and slow Legacy on air frame format to trigger. I wrote N meant G.
3
4 -Joel
5 On May 24, 2016 10:04 PM, "Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <aenertia@××××××××.net>
6 wrote:
7
8 > N DOES NOT HELP at hotels. N over 2.4ghz forces ALL stations on that
9 > broadcast bandwidth (yes even those not participating) to downgrade to
10 > Legacy mode ( this behaviour is stupid, but that's what we get for
11 > backwards compatibility of mac80211 that should hace been abandonded after
12 > G for a complete redesign ). And there is always some device in hotels that
13 > ensures you will almost never get anything useable out on 2.4ghz channels.
14 >
15 > 5ghz (a and ac or a+n) ammeloriates this, and because of the narroweer and
16 > more abundant bands and channel options.
17 >
18 > The chances are however likely you're get shapped to hell by their captive
19 > portal before either of these issues. That class of hotel in the states you
20 > will be lucky with 3 mbit per device, be happy with 10 or 15 for the
21 > premium paid step option.
22 >
23 > As others have said it is time to replace your G device (not least because
24 > you are a culprit of said above behaviour ;-) ... you can get 3x3 dual band
25 > dual proc ath9k+ath10k routers that are openwrt-able for 50-70$ (i liked
26 > the tplink ac1750 v2 As a budget buy, but i hear the v3's require using
27 > lftp mode to flash ).
28 >
29 > Look on openwrt.org for suggestions.
30 >
31 > Bridge mode is a BS proprietary method ONLY implemented on bcm2xxx chips.
32 > You can achieve what you want with relayd (Bridges l2 broadcast domain of
33 > ANY two networks regardless) on ANY router running openwrt.
34 >
35 > -Joel
36 > On May 24, 2016 9:13 PM, "Duncan" <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
37 >
38 >> Mark Knecht posted on Tue, 24 May 2016 15:11:20 -0700 as excerpted:
39 >>
40 >> > Anyway, I guess if it was me I'd use the one you have short term while
41 >> > at the hotel and then look at my house system when I landed someplace
42 >> > permanent and try to go as fast as possible then.
43 >>
44 >> Bridge mode. Thanks.
45 >>
46 >> And sticking with the old router is a reasonable suggestion. I'm just
47 >> not sure it's actually going to be practical in the shared hotel
48 >> environment. But with G mode now quite outdated, provided the hotel
49 >> still offers that and I'd guess they do still offer at least G (tho maybe
50 >> not A/B), it /might/ mean I'm about the only one on it and
51 >> /could/ mean I even get better speeds than I would on the N and AC modes
52 >> if they're clogged.
53 >>
54 >> I'll have to call and confirm they offer G mode...
55 >>
56 >> Worst case, I don't have Internet for three months and watch TV and/or
57 >> get a lot of books read.
58 >>
59 >> > Good luck with the move. Moving is tough. Stay cool in this heat.
60 >>
61 >> Yeah. The two good points are (1) that the city is actually paying
62 >> commercial movers for the move, which I effectively signed off on today,
63 >> so worst-case, I don't do anything and let them do it all, but end up
64 >> storing a bunch of stuff I'd probably get rid of if I did it myself, and
65 >> not having the stuff I'd keep as sorted, but it does kind of lower the
66 >> stress as one way or another it'll get done, and (2) while it's
67 >> unpleasantly forcing me out of my familiar shell in the near term, the
68 >> change should be healthy for me long term.
69 >>
70 >> As for the heat, I've not felt it much yet this year. Given that it's
71 >> happening at the very early tip of June, I hope/expect it won't be too
72 >> bad. I'm a bit worried about the move out of the temp housing at the end
73 >> of August, however. Except if I get my butt in gear and have things
74 >> sorted and a lot thrown out at this end on the first, then I'll have less
75 >> to deal with on the other end and it'll be already sorted.
76 >>
77 >> --
78 >> Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
79 >> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
80 >> and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
81 >>
82 >>
83 >>