Re: [gentoo-desktop] Re: Dependencies of KDE 3

[Igor Korot]

Duncan,

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote:
> Igor Korot posted on Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:21:50 -0800 as excerpted:
>
>>> Let's see here.  Ignore packages with the -meta suffix, first off,
>>> since they're just aggregators for other packages.  Secondly, since
>>> Portage's dependency identification sometimes messes up in --keep-going
>>> runs, attempt to individually re-emerge any package that didn't get far
>>> enough to produce a log.  Start with the kde-base packages:
>>>
>>>>  *  (kde-base/kdm-3.5.10::kde-sunset, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>>>>  *  (kde-base/kdebase-startkde-3.5.10-r5::kde-sunset, ebuild scheduled
>>>>  for merge) *  (kde-base/konqueror-3.5.10::kde-sunset, ebuild
>>>>  scheduled for merge)
>>>>  *  (kde-base/kdesktop-3.5.10::kde-sunset, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>>>>  *  (kde-base/konsole-3.5.10::kde-sunset, ebuild scheduled for merge)
>>>
>>> Most of these packages are important to the basic functioning of KDE,
>>> and you need to get them merged if you want a functioning desktop.
>>> Then look at the extras:
>>
>> Here, unmasking kcontrol fixed everything. All 5 packages are now
>> compiled and installed correctly.
>
> =:^)
>
>>> These packages are less important, and if you can live with the idea of
>>> using a different (probably GTK-based) mailer and calendar application,
>>> you don't absolutely need them.
>
> I meant to reply to this point earlier and forgot.
>
> Due to kdepim4 akonadifying everything, I've dumped everything related to
> it, here.  For me, that was kmail and akregator.  FWIW, I've been very
> happy with the (gtk-based) claws-mail I replaced both of them with.  It
> can be noted, however, that I prefer to keep mail and feeds separate, so
> while I use claws-mail with its feed-reader plugin for feeds (replacing
> akregator), I run two separate claws-mail instances, using different icon
> themes for each so I can tell the difference in the system tray icons (in
> particular, otherwise I don't really care).  Getting two instances to run
> required setting up a couple environmental variables in a script-wrapper
> that I run to start them up, otherwise the first one intercepts the
> commands intended for the second, but that was simple enough, once I
> figured out what was happening.
>
> So if you /do/ happen to be looking for a new mail (and/or feeds) client,
> I can say I've been very happy with claws-mail.  In particular, as with
> most MH-mail format mail clients, its emphasis is on user scriptable
> extensibility, which means it's very unlikely to have the devs up and
> decide to break everything just to go chasing something new, as both kde4
> and now kdepim4 have done, as that would break all the user's scripts!
> After being forced to leave kmail after nearly a decade due to its devs'
> fascination with shiny, that's an even more significant feature for this
> gentooer than simple scriptable extensibility is likely to be for the
> /average/ gentooer. =:^)
>
> If your mail providers all have IMAP (or you control your own), there's
> also the relatively new trojita, with a gentoo dev as upstream, too.
> Unfortunately, my MSPs are all POP3 based, so that wouldn't be an easy
> switch, here, but I was still tempted, and probably would have setup my
> own IMAP and used fetchmail or whatever, if I hadn't found claws-mail
> such a good match.  Trojita is qt4 based, and the author recently blogged
> (carried by the gentoo-planet feed) about a qt5 conference he was
> attending, so it shouldn't get stuck with an old qt as kde3 did.

I can perfectly well live without the mail/calendar/office stuff.
I just need KDE to test some things.

AFAIU, I have a working install of this DM, just kopete fails.
Everything else is either not important or can be substituted.

Thank you.

>
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