Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Who runs Gentoo was -> RFC: Userkit.eclass

[Daniel Campbell]

On 12/04/2016 10:10 AM, james wrote:
> On 12/04/2016 02:22 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 06:30:29PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>>> ----------------
>>>> Net Total: $50,924.19
>>>> ----------------
>>> So from 09-16 avg of ~$4.6k per year over 11 years.
>> 10 years of participation, 9 of which we got paid for. So ~$5.7k/year.
>> If we got paid for 2013: ~$5.4k/year over 10 years.
>>
>>> With that really being earned by people doing GSoC. Not the same as if
>>> Google donated a lump sum of money to further development per say the
>>> Councils plans. Only 1 hardware donation.
>> That's the payment to the organization for mentoring and managing the
>> students, separate from what the students doing GSoC earned.
>>
>> If the student's work was of use to Gentoo, then it's ALSO $5000-$5500
>> per student that we've had in man-hours. I do use that disclaimer,
>> because I know the integration rate for Gentoo students much lower than
>> it should be.
>>
>> 2006: 10 students
>> 2007: 8 students
>> 2008: 5 students
>> 2009: 6 students
>> 2010: 16 students
>> 2011: 14 students
>> 2012: 8 students
>> 2013: 6 students
>> 2014: 3 students
>> 2016: 5 students
>>
>> Total: 81 students.
>> Assuming $5k/student: $405,000 in student payments, over 11 years.
>>
>> I don't know how many students we've failed: I do know it's been at
>> least one (I failed them. Their original mentor had medical issues, I
>> took over, and they provided a mocked video of their work and no code by
>> midterm).
>>
>>> I believe past sponsors such as GNi incurred costs in the ~$5k range
>>> monthly.
>>> I would assume some hosting sponsors to be averaging a few thousand
>>> at minimum
>>> per year.
>> The cost to GNi was much closer to $1k/month, mostly in potential lost
>> revenue if the hardware COULD be used for income (it was already a sunk
>> cost, and didn't have other users). For our present major hosting
>> sponsors, I believe we're more in line with $250-$400/month, but again
>> mostly older hardware that isn't of much other salable use.
>>
>>> Just as an example. FreeBSD is seeking $1.25 Million in a fundraiser
>>> with
>>> $882k thus far.
>>> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/
>> $1.25M is their annual fund-raising target for this year and last. Not a
>> specific fund-raiser, but their annual target.
>> For 2016 Q1-Q3, on the $1.25M, they report $293k in contributions.
>> For 2015, on a $1.25M target, they reported $657k in contributions.
>> For 2014, on a $1M target, they reported $2.4M in contributions.
>>
>>> They seem to average in the hundreds of thousands every year in
>>> contributions
>>> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about/financials/
>> They're also got a good few years on us (as do Apache).
>>
>>> Always looked at FreeBSD when I was a Gentoo Trustee. Great
>>> foundation! Passed
>>> the 5 year probation period with IRS, and other stuff.
>> The Apache Foundation was very beneficial to look at I found, because
>> they kept superb public records, but also were not hampered by some of
>> our restrictions about depending on non-open software (they & the perl
>> foundation BOTH use QuickBooks on Windows for their accounting).
>
>
> GNUcash is superior to Quickbooks, as it is a 'double entry' accounting
> system. Last time I check Quickbooks was not 'double entry' and that is
> a big deal in accounting.  There is a module that allows entries via
> Android now with GNUcash, but is not an official part of GNUcash.org. I
> use GNUcash with my company, but not the Android smartphone module.....
>
>
> http://gnucash.org
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/gnucash-a-powerful-mobile-financial-tool-for-android/
>
>
>
> Serious inquires could be directed to 'gnucash-user@×××××××.org' as this
> accounting software is robust, under active development and even the
> devs 'chime in' on  routine basis.  All in all, gnucash is an
> outstanding piece of FOSS software; much better than Quickbooks as many
> on the discussion lists attest to on a routine basis. It is in portage
> and it runs on windows and other platforms.
>
>
> hth,
> James
>
>
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/
>>
>> I draw your attention to their last 990 filing:
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/990-2014.pdf
>> - $1.2M in annual income
>> - $858k spend on infrastructure,
>>   of which >$400k was marked directly as IT spending.
>> - $1.8M in net assets
>>
>
>
iirc, we're using Ledger (http://ledger-cli.org), which is also
double-entry accounting. It uses a text file for its information, and
has a ton of reporting features that make it trivial to produce reports.
I use it to manage my personal finances, as well.

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