Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Who runs Gentoo was -> RFC: Userkit.eclass

[james]

On 12/04/2016 02:22 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 06:30:29PM -0500, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
>>> ----------------
>>> Net Total: $50,924.19
>>> ----------------
>> So from 09-16 avg of ~$4.6k per year over 11 years.
> 10 years of participation, 9 of which we got paid for. So ~$5.7k/year.
> If we got paid for 2013: ~$5.4k/year over 10 years.
>
>> With that really being earned by people doing GSoC. Not the same as if
>> Google donated a lump sum of money to further development per say the
>> Councils plans. Only 1 hardware donation.
> That's the payment to the organization for mentoring and managing the
> students, separate from what the students doing GSoC earned.
>
> If the student's work was of use to Gentoo, then it's ALSO $5000-$5500
> per student that we've had in man-hours. I do use that disclaimer,
> because I know the integration rate for Gentoo students much lower than
> it should be.
>
> 2006: 10 students
> 2007: 8 students
> 2008: 5 students
> 2009: 6 students
> 2010: 16 students
> 2011: 14 students
> 2012: 8 students
> 2013: 6 students
> 2014: 3 students
> 2016: 5 students
>
> Total: 81 students.
> Assuming $5k/student: $405,000 in student payments, over 11 years.
>
> I don't know how many students we've failed: I do know it's been at
> least one (I failed them. Their original mentor had medical issues, I
> took over, and they provided a mocked video of their work and no code by
> midterm).
>
>> I believe past sponsors such as GNi incurred costs in the ~$5k range monthly.
>> I would assume some hosting sponsors to be averaging a few thousand at minimum
>> per year.
> The cost to GNi was much closer to $1k/month, mostly in potential lost
> revenue if the hardware COULD be used for income (it was already a sunk
> cost, and didn't have other users). For our present major hosting
> sponsors, I believe we're more in line with $250-$400/month, but again
> mostly older hardware that isn't of much other salable use.
>
>> Just as an example. FreeBSD is seeking $1.25 Million in a fundraiser with
>> $882k thus far.
>> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/
> $1.25M is their annual fund-raising target for this year and last. Not a
> specific fund-raiser, but their annual target.
> For 2016 Q1-Q3, on the $1.25M, they report $293k in contributions.
> For 2015, on a $1.25M target, they reported $657k in contributions.
> For 2014, on a $1M target, they reported $2.4M in contributions.
>
>> They seem to average in the hundreds of thousands every year in contributions
>> https://www.freebsdfoundation.org/about/financials/
> They're also got a good few years on us (as do Apache).
>
>> Always looked at FreeBSD when I was a Gentoo Trustee. Great foundation! Passed
>> the 5 year probation period with IRS, and other stuff.
> The Apache Foundation was very beneficial to look at I found, because
> they kept superb public records, but also were not hampered by some of
> our restrictions about depending on non-open software (they & the perl
> foundation BOTH use QuickBooks on Windows for their accounting).


GNUcash is superior to Quickbooks, as it is a 'double entry' accounting 
system. Last time I check Quickbooks was not 'double entry' and that is 
a big deal in accounting.  There is a module that allows entries via 
Android now with GNUcash, but is not an official part of GNUcash.org. I 
use GNUcash with my company, but not the Android smartphone module.....


http://gnucash.org

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/gnucash-a-powerful-mobile-financial-tool-for-android/


Serious inquires could be directed to 'gnucash-user@×××××××.org' as this 
accounting software is robust, under active development and even the 
devs 'chime in' on  routine basis.  All in all, gnucash is an 
outstanding piece of FOSS software; much better than Quickbooks as many 
on the discussion lists attest to on a routine basis. It is in portage 
and it runs on windows and other platforms.


hth,
James


> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/
>
> I draw your attention to their last 990 filing:
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/records/990-2014.pdf
> - $1.2M in annual income
> - $858k spend on infrastructure,
>   of which >$400k was marked directly as IT spending.
> - $1.8M in net assets
>