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On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:08:27PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:04:31 -0700 |
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> Greg KH <gregkh@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Not always, no, it isn't obvious that something didn't start up |
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> > correctly, or that it didn't fully load properly. Some programs later |
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> > on recover and handle things better. |
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> So why not work on fixing those things, since they're clearly symptoms |
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> of a larger "oops, we have too much coupling" problem, instead of |
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> forcing a workaround onto large numbers of users? |
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I seriously doubt there are a "large number" of users here that have |
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this issue. |
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And even if there is, again, there is a simple solution that Gentoo |
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provides for this issue, see the earlier initrd solution that we support |
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today. |
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As for "fixing this", see the oft-linked webpage as to why it can't be |
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fixed easily, if at all, and honestly, I don't think it needs to be |
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fixed. |
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Especially as NO ONE has ever stepped up to fix these issues, which |
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proves that no one is really invested in it. |
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As for "too much coupling", you are talking to the wrong person. |
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Personally, I feel we are too lightly coupled, and need to have stronger |
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links happening here in order to properly solve the problems that we |
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have in this area. |
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If you disagree with the coupling issue, fine, but again, you need to do |
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the work, and properly understand the issues involved. The people doing |
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the work today do understand them, by virtue of doing the work involved, |
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which gives them the say in how it is done. That's how open source |
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works, why is this ever a surprise to people? |
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I'll go back to lurking now, and getting stuff done, like everyone else |
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on this thread should be doing, instead of complaining (this is -dev, |
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not -users...) |
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greg k-h |