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On Monday 27 March 2006 16:55, foser wrote: |
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> On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 00:03 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: |
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> <snip> |
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> > ===== Bugs overview (probably missed some): ===== |
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> > #89870: long story, summary: .desktop files are installed in different |
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> > places. KDE only reads the KDE ones, Gnome only the Gnome ones (and both |
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> > use a small common set). |
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> This doesn't really fit in the WM/DM issue afaics. The fact just is that |
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> the alternative installations roots Gentoo KDE uses aren't dealt with in |
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> the eg. the menu config files. |
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It's not the only issue. Another issue is that non-KDE, e.g. Gnome, users (at |
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least the #89870 submitter, and it seemed to me some other commenters agreed) |
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don't want KDE apps in their menu. So even if there was just one KDE version |
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and it was installed in /usr, there would be a problem. |
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Cf the original #89870 bugreport and comments starting at #38. |
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Assume the install prefix problem is fixed somehow. What items are displayed |
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in each WM's menu? |
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Option 1: KDE only displays KDE apps, Gnome only Gnome apps. How do we decide |
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what is displayed in both ('neutral' apps)? Can the user edit the menu, and |
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include some things we don't include by default, in a WM-neutral way? What |
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should WMs other than KDE and Gnome display by default? |
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Option 2: always display everything. Problems: huge menu. KDE and Gnome and |
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others use different categorization. A change of the status quo, so user |
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community should get a chance to veto. And when using descriptions as primary |
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menu text (e.g. 'Text editor' instead of 'kwrite'/'gedit') some KDE and Gnome |
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programs have similar or identical descriptions, which looks bad to new |
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users. |
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Either way, not just menu items are involved but all .desktop files. E.g., |
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mimetype descriptions/icons/handlers/action for graphical file managers. And |
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descriptions of various services, although I can't think of an example of |
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crossdesktop use offhand. |
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> GDM has had just its own Xsession for a long time iirc. I think most |
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> functionality provided by these other X* files are login manager (xdm?) |
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> specific. The one real issue is Xsession. |
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Can anyone comment regarding entrance or any other DMs? |
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> > #14872: unifying DM session scripts, handling of ~/.xsession, etc. The |
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> > bug is closed but I think some things mentioned there haven't been fixed. |
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> This is sort of the same as #26326 . |
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OK. I thought I saw something unique there but can't find it now, I was |
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probably wrong. |
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Dan Armak |
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Gentoo Linux developer (KDE) |
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