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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2013 15:16:47
Message-Id: 1375888590.1870.6.camel@localhost
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 by Michael Weber
1 El mié, 07-08-2013 a las 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber escribió:
2 > Greetings,
3 >
4 > Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires
5 > systemd.
6 >
7 > What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this
8 > restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this
9 > eye-candy as well.
10 >
11 > I raise the freedom of choice card here. And deliberately choosing an
12 > uncooperative version doesn't shine a good light.
13 >
14 > Facts, pls!
15 >
16 > Michael
17 >
18 > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478252
19
20 Gnome 3.6 is not maintained by upstream now -> bugs are being fixed in
21 3.8 and 3.9. Also, stabilizing 3.6 will point Gnome2 users to this two
22 options:
23 - Run gnome-shell
24 - Run 3.6 fallback mode -> 3.6 fallback mode is using old gnome-panel
25 stuff that was dropped in 3.8 because it wasn't really maintained
26
27 They will also be able to run 3.6 with openrc... but that will be the
28 last version "working" with it, we will hit the same problem again when
29 we want to stabilize 3.8 (well, 3.10 is going to be released in October,
30 I think we have been waiting enough)
31
32 Also, I think we should stop spending a lot of time trying to keep it
33 working with openrc, we simply don't have resources to do that at the
34 moment (even Debian/Ubuntu people are stick with systemd-204 because
35 they don't have resources to keep logind working without systemd in
36 newer versions). Now, we are needing to put a lot of effort on trying to
37 provide unit files and provide systemd related fixes in the tree because
38 we haven't (in general) pay attention to systemd at all => I think we
39 should put more efforts on it than trying to work on hacks to prevent
40 systemd dependency.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8 Daniel Campbell <lists@××××××××.us>