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From: Tom Wijsman <TomWij@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: wyatt.epp@×××××.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:43:07
Message-Id: 20130820214254.0e426f81@TOMWIJ-GENTOO
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies by Wyatt Epp
1 On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:29:09 -0400
2 Wyatt Epp <wyatt.epp@×××××.com> wrote:
3
4 > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:19 PM, William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
5 > wrote:
6 > What things in stable are undergoing bitrot?
7
8 Things that are too old; see 'imlate' from app-portage/gentoolkit-dev,
9 this can be handy to indicate stabilization candidates. You can try to
10 filter it for things that haven't been stabilized for more than a
11 month; alternatively, it's a fun data manipulation task to try to stat
12 and/or grep it from the Portage tree in one or another way...
13
14 > What manner of bitrot?
15
16 They might ...
17
18 1. ... contain stability bugs which may need fixing.
19 2. ... contain security bugs that later versions have fixed.
20 3. ... make it unable to file a bug upstream because it is old.
21 4. ... block libraries that should otherwise be punted.
22 5. ... no longer work nowadays; because some internet API changed,
23 because people run a new kernel version and because ...
24 6. ... and so on...
25
26 In other words, it's bad QA if you keep them around for way too long.
27
28 > On what architectures?
29
30 There is the impression that happens on all architectures; while
31 indeed, there are some minor architectures where this is a bigger
32 problem, some might just benefit having no stabilization.
33
34 Statistics would be nice here, because an indication is missing...
35
36 > Specifics or examples seem like they'll be important here because I
37 > think this is largely a matter of perception.
38
39 +1
40
41 --
42 With kind regards,
43
44 Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
45 Gentoo Developer
46
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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: stabilization policies Sergey Popov <pinkbyte@g.o>