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On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:49 AM, Patrick Lauer <patrick@g.o> wrote: |
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> Seeing the noise in #gentoo from people getting whacked in the kidney by |
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> the systemd sidegrade ... that's a very optimistic decision. |
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Yes it is, because our policy has always been to follow upstream as |
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much as possible. So your sarcasm is not fun. |
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> It'll cause lots of pain for users that suddenly can't start lvm |
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> properly and other nasty landmines hidden in the "upgrade path". By |
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> stabilizing this early you're causing lots of extra work for others. |
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How much time did you spend on trying to make GNOME 3.8 work with openrc? |
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Because I spent so much that I ended up suggesting the GNOME team to |
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require systemd. |
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And systemd is the only thing that at this time, properly works with |
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current and future GNOME releases. And GNOME 3.8 is at this time, only |
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fully working with systemd (fully: if you don't think you need to be |
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able to shutdown your computer and have proper session management... |
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well, I'd remove the "fully" word myself.) |
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Moreover, the lvm problem is caused by a very ancient and ill decision |
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about doing what upstream tells you to avoid: have mdev in the |
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initramfs and udev on the final pivot rooted system. This was just |
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looking for troubles but the smarties at the time decided that they |
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knew better... And now, tadam, the bug is served... |
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People can use genkernel-next, which comes with _proper_ udev support |
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(see --udev). |
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> I hope you understand that some of us will be very rude and just suggest |
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> to unmerge gnome on all support requests as it now moves outside our |
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> support range ... |
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> Have a nice day, |
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> Patrick |
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Fabio Erculiani |
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