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On 08/07/2013 09:14 PM, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: |
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> On Wed, 2013-08-07 at 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber wrote: |
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>> Greetings, |
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>> Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires |
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>> systemd. |
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>> What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this |
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>> restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this |
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>> eye-candy as well. |
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>> I raise the freedom of choice card here. And deliberately choosing an |
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>> uncooperative version doesn't shine a good light. |
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>> Facts, pls! |
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>> Michael |
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>> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478252 |
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> |
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> To stabilize gnome-3.6, we would need |
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> 1. one or (preferably) two *active* gentoo developers; |
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> 2. who are familiar with gnome's internals and are able to backport |
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> bugfixes from 3.8/3.10 without support from upstream developers; and |
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> 3. who volunteer to run openrc+gnome-3.6 for a long time on their main |
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> machines so that they can give a stable 3.6 the support that the word |
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> 'stable' implies. |
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> We do not have such people on the gnome team. |
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Seeing the noise in #gentoo from people getting whacked in the kidney by |
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the systemd sidegrade ... that's a very optimistic decision. |
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It'll cause lots of pain for users that suddenly can't start lvm |
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properly and other nasty landmines hidden in the "upgrade path". By |
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stabilizing this early you're causing lots of extra work for others. |
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I hope you understand that some of us will be very rude and just suggest |
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to unmerge gnome on all support requests as it now moves outside our |
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support range ... |
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Have a nice day, |
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Patrick |
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