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From: William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 01:44:07
Message-Id: 20090524014404.GA18219@linux1
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media by Dale
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4 On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 07:32:18PM -0500, Dale wrote:
5 > Thomas Pani wrote:
6 > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Andrew Gaffney <agaffney@g.o> wrote:
7 > >
8 > >> The real issue here is the size. If these additional packages plus all of
9 > >> the alsa modules add 20MB to the minimal CD, it's just not worth it. It's
10 > >> not "minimal" anymore.
11 > >>
12 > >>
13 > > Could you elaborate whom that change would affect (negatively)? 83MB
14 > > for current x86 isn't really "minimal" any more, anyway.
15 > > I don't see the difference between 83MB and 103MB:
16 > > - Makes no difference on blank CD (even those minis have ~200MB).
17 > > - Regarding download size, well, after the CD you'll have to get the
18 > > stage tarball and most probably source tarballs as well.
19 > >
20 > > --
21 > > Thomas Pani
22 > >
23 > >
24 > >
25 >
26 > For a person on dial-up, about 2 1/2 hours of additional download. That
27 > said, I'd be OK with the increase in size if it would help a person who
28 > can't see the screen.
29
30 It is impossible for a person who can't see the screen to install gentoo
31 linux from our current release media unless they do what I did, which
32 was to have someone read the screen to me long enough to assist me with
33 starting an ssh server on the livecd and figure out the IP address of
34 the computer, so that I could ssh in from my second computer to do the
35 install.
36
37 In other words, putting this software on our media will not just
38 help, but make it possible for a blind person to install gentoo
39 independently.
40
41 Only adding the software to the live cd is not an option for me, because
42 I feel that all of our release media should be accessible. Yes, there
43 will be a size increase for the release media, but, unless the alsa
44 modules and alsa-utils are over 15 mb, it will not be a 20 mb increase.
45
46 - --
47 William Hubbs
48 gentoo accessibility team lead
49 williamh@g.o
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Replies

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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: Accessibility on our release media Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>