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joshua jackson wrote: |
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> Jakub Moc wrote: |
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>> Petteri Rýty napsal(a): |
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>>> Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are |
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>>> implemented. |
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>>> Regards, |
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>>> Petteri |
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>> As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree. |
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>> Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to profiles. |
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>> Wrt pidgin - seriously, what's the big issue here? Users can't use |
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>> emerge -pv output and determine what they want, or? Will we bloat the |
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>> profiles everytime someone forgets to enable a flag and goes complain |
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>> upstream about a 'missing' feature? |
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>> !DSPAM:469f3b40137571336712104! |
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> Honestly..this is not something to get picky over jakub. Upstream was |
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> nice and actually came and politely asked us to change the defaults to |
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> what most people would consider sane (all protocols by default). As I |
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> think most people emerging pidgin..would like to use any protocol by |
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> default..not go..hey I don't have yahoo, I should check my use flags. |
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> Which obviously hasn't happened as users pop up in #pidgin to ask why |
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> the heck there isn't a yahoo account available. |
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> This should be a nothing change to do. Its also working with upstream |
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> and maintaining some good relationships here..and or help improve them |
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> in general. That should in fact you know...be part of our goals....to |
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> improve communications between Gentoo and other projects. |
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Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such |
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Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't need to go |
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and annoy upstream. Associate an irc-channel with each package. Most packages |
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have a herd associated with them which can belong to a project which could |
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have an irc-channel where the relevant developers could be found and which can |
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put common problems in its topic. Fallback for when no appropriate irc-channel |
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can be found would be #gentoo. Currently it is usually difficult to find such |
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irc-channels or to know if there is none and that your only option is #gentoo |
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or #$upstream. It would also make it easier for users to start helping |
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developers and eventually become developers themselves, since they won't need |
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to search for a point of entry anymore. |
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Marijn |
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