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On 21 December 2012 22:50, Peter Stuge <peter@×××××.se> wrote: |
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> Markos, |
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>[...] |
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> Maybe you can understand that there is a disconnect between what |
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> people who have no experience from what you do and what you actually |
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> do? That was certainly the case for me, and maybe also for Doug. The |
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> documentation that I once read was certainly much more aggressive |
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> than what you and others describe, and it's easy to assume that |
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> documentation is correct. :) |
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Ok let me clarify something since it appears there is a confusion. |
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The Undertakers project is in no way special compared to other Gentoo |
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projects. What this means is that this project is a separate entity |
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(like *all* Gentoo projects) and |
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free to shape and form whatever policy it see fit for inactive |
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developers. *All* Gentoo projects operate in the same manner, meaning |
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nobody outside of the project controls what decisions |
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are made and why. If you want to be part of the decision making |
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process, join the project. If you have problems with what this project |
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is doing, *please* come a talk to us. |
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Having said that, and I already said that previously, I agree that the |
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policy is not ideal and we need to change it. *However* nobody *ever* |
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talked to us and raised his concerns in a civil matter. |
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Nobody *ever* complained with the "status updates" emails we send to |
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them. Like I said before, the emails we send are far from insulting, |
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you can see the templates here[1] and here[2]. I can see why these |
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templates may look a bit "distant", but Pacho and I always add extra |
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bits to them, especially asking them to consider dropping themselves |
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from metadata.xml until they come back. |
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*Every single one of the devs we asked so far* was more than willing |
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to cooperate with us, drop himself from metadata.xml, allow us |
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to reassign his bugs and seek new maintainers. Those who didn't, |
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agreed to retire because they realized they didn't contribute anymore |
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so having the Gentoo badge made no sense. |
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Again, the fact that we ask inactive developers about their status, it |
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does *not* mean that we will retire them if they don't make X commits/ |
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week. We just need to make sure that packages are maintained properly |
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and avoid |
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having unattended bugs for years because a maintainer got MIA. |
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Finally, I am very proud with the work we are doing, especially Pacho |
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who has been doing most of the work lately. We have managed to "free" |
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many many packages and this was one of the reasons I formed the |
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proxy-maintainers project, so that non-dev contributors could step up |
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and take care of all these packages that inactive devs left |
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unattended. |
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[1]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/undertakers/retirement-first.txt |
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[2]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/undertakers/retirement-second.txt |
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Regards, |
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Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 |
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