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Markos, |
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Markos Chandras wrote: |
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> I totally disagree with the way Doug started this thread. |
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That's of course completely fair, but try to look beyond that, and |
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let's focus on how we can make things better for everyone. |
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> Calling us "brain dead" ? |
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Please read email even more carefully, especially when you read |
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something that makes you upset. I think you completely misunderstood |
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what Doug wrote. He wrote: |
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"I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers |
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that are still interested in the distro" |
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So as I mentioned in a previous email that I wrote, *you* aren't |
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being attacked here. "brain dead" is of course strong wording, but |
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note that it refers to the idea and *not* to anyone who is |
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implementing the idea. I guess the idea is really really old by now. |
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> No sorry, I am not willing to discuss anything about this policy |
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> nor willing to change it |
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That's not very helpful. I had expected much more from you, since you |
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are a strong contributor to Gentoo since a long time. |
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> if someone can't behave properly and ask us nicely to discuss the |
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> problem. |
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As I wrote, I think Doug's email was nice enough. He included his |
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attitude as background for an inquiry. It should be pretty easy to |
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recognize which is which, and for the community to work together on |
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making things better for everyone, with focus on the inquiry. |
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Refusing to discuss and change for any reason seems pretty weird to |
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me. |
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Basically you are saying that communication can only happen on your |
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own terms, instead of trying to always adjust communication to your |
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party. Guess what happens if both parties do that. |
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> We never *insulted* or *threated* anyone with retirement |
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Cool! My impression of the process was the exact opposite. I don't |
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have experience from it of course, but the way it was described it |
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was certainly a big part of me not being able to grow motivation to |
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work through the Gentoo recruitment process. |
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> I never expected this attitude just for asking "hey are you there? |
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> do you still want to maintain all these packages? any ETA on coming |
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> back". Seriously... |
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Maybe you can understand that there is a disconnect between what |
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people who have no experience from what you do and what you actually |
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do? That was certainly the case for me, and maybe also for Doug. The |
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documentation that I once read was certainly much more aggressive |
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than what you and others describe, and it's easy to assume that |
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documentation is correct. :) |
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//Peter |