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From: Zac Medico <zmedico@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:00:38
Message-Id: 562021F2.8090803@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs by "Anthony G. Basile"
1 On 10/15/2015 02:51 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
2 > On 10/15/15 5:20 PM, Zac Medico wrote:
3 >> On 10/15/2015 02:13 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
4 >>
5 >> so if iputils is in @profile, and i do:
6 >> emerge -C iputils
7 >> i don't get the ugly warning about it being in @system, but if i do:
8 >> emerge @world
9 >> iputils comes back. i think that's OK actually since people can do:
10 >> emerge @selected
11 >> which has the classic @world meaning.
12 >> -mike
13 >>
14 >> People need to be able to use @world without it pulling in unwanted
15 >> packages, since it's the only way to properly do a full update of all
16 >> relevant packages (relevant packages being those that would not be
17 >> removed by depclean).
18 > But that's true of @system packages now. If a user does `emerge -C
19 > iputils` they get a warning about it being in the system set and when
20 > they do `emerge @world` it comes back.
21
22 I think it's obvious that such packages don't belong in @system, unless
23 we're talking about a profile where iputils is absolutely required for
24 some reason.
25
26 > The only change in moving it to @profile is the warning.
27
28 What's the point of getting rid of the warning if the package is going
29 to get pulled back in on the next @world update? Either way, the end
30 result it that the user has to go through some hoops
31 (/etc/portage/profile overrides) if they don't want that package
32 installed again.
33
34 > Also, I think the other change is during the
35 > building of the /tmp/stage1root during stage1, @system won't include
36 > iputils and this saves on the number of packages built.
37
38 The last time I checked, @system was not used for stage1. Catalyst used
39 package.build instead. Has that changed?
40 --
41 Thanks,
42 Zac

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Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-dev] ironing out release tarballs "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>