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From: Thomas Sachau <tommy@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] MULTI_ABI support addition to main tree portage
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:57:06
Message-Id: 4D4462CE.5060600@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] MULTI_ABI support addition to main tree portage by Pacho Ramos
1 Am 29.01.2011 19:30, schrieb Pacho Ramos:
2 > El sáb, 29-01-2011 a las 13:10 -0500, Nathan Phillip Brink escribió:
3 >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 06:03:10PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote:
4 >>>
5 >>> Hello
6 >>>
7 >>> I would like to know what is "blocking" this from landing main tree in
8 >>> the "near" future, as I reviewed:
9 >>>
10 >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@l.g.o/msg41737.html
11 >>>
12 >>> and looks like there wasn't major problems (at least commented in this
13 >>> thread)
14 >>
15 >> There are still a number of known build failures, tracked in
16 >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/alias/portage-multilib . There are probably
17 >> many more portage-multilib-related build failures which haven't been
18 >> encountered yet nor reported. Also, even these reported bugs are not
19 >> necessarily fixed first because they only affect us the minority ;-).
20 >
21 > OK, thanks. Maybe bug 306835 should block bug 145737 instead of
22 > depending on it, not?
23
24 I think, they are mostly dublicates, bug 145737 was the original multilib-portage idea of kanaka,
25 but he discontinued it. The version of today (bug 306835) does partly base on his work and partly on
26 the work with the native-multilib eclass from some Gentoo users with some additional changes from me.
27
28 >
29 >>
30 >> Most everything is easy to debug and as simple as replacing calls to
31 >> $(LD) in poorly-written Makefileswith with calls to $(CC), fixing
32 >> packages which ignore CFLAGS (where we store our -m32) or LDFLAGS
33 >> (where we now also store -m32 since one's not allowed to require
34 >> buildsystems to call $(CC) with $(CFLAGS) when objects are being
35 >> linked into an executable or library).
36 >>
37 >> However, packages which use qmake or cmake macros installed by KDE are
38 >> more difficult to debug and there are other funny issues such as
39 >> CFLAGS being stored by a library's buildsystem and stored into
40 >> /usr/share instead of an ABI-dependent directory, breaking packages
41 >> which use that library... ;-)
42 >>
43 >> Also, there are still some decisions/changes to portage-multilib which
44 >> might be made The most recent idea discussed was: should ${ARCH}
45 >> useflags (like SRC_URI="x86? ( http://host/my-binari-x86.tar.bz2 )")
46 >> be replaced with ${ABI} useflags or should we rewrite a bunch of
47 >> ebuilds in the tree to be multilib-aware? For example:
48 >>
49 >> Say we have
50 >> ABI=x86
51 >> ARCH=amd64
52 >>
53 >> Does ``use x86'' return true or do we need to use ``use multilib_abi_x86''?
54 >> Do detect the true arch, do we need ``use arch_amd64'' or does ``use amd64'' still return true?
55 >>
56 >
57 > Where do you discuss things like this? IRC channel? Mailing-list?
58 > Thanks :-)
59
60 Most communication is done in #gentoo-multilib-overlay on freenode IRC. I have also created a mail
61 alias (multilib@g.o), but it is only used for some bugzilla assignments at the moment.
62
63
64 --
65 Thomas Sachau
66
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