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From: Jochen Maes <gentoo-dev@××××.be>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Delay in approval of new developers
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:17:36
Message-Id: 4513D3A0.50306@sejo.be
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: Delay in approval of new developers by Peter
Peter wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:15:14 +0200, Jochen Maes wrote: > > snip... > > >>> glad you were an exception. >>> >>> >>> >> glad i never knew you when i was a gentoo dev... I know one thing, you >> won't ever get a hump out of me! >> > > You're arguing a different point. I was commenting on the time delay, and > you responded with how difficult it is to be a recruiter. If the delay is > long then there is a problem. If you run a business and you want to hire > someone, yet you wait and wait and wait, it's quite possible the recruit > may accept another position. That's a loss to you. Same with potential > gentoo developers. When someone goes through the trouble to complete > tests, work with his/her mentor, spend time on bz, etc., the least they > can expect is courteous response when they choose to become a dev. > Perusing through recruitment bugs, you can see long lapses. It IS > inexcusable. > > Yes, everyone does gentoo voluntarily, but that does not mean less should > be expected. It reminds me of the time my 5 year old cousin sadly was in > the hospital, and the nurse needed to take yet another blood sample. The > nurse said "I'm sorry I have to take blood again. I don't like to hurt > little boys." To which my very sharp cousin replied, "So, why are you in > this business?" > > If a gentoo dev joins a particular project to perform a particular task, > he/she IS making a commitment to it. The dev should have known in advance > what's expected and the time required. AFAIK recruiters are hardly > overworked. There is no overfull pipeline of dev recruits banging on the > doors. > > Simple courtesy requires they handle recruiting bugs quickly and > efficiently with either a Welcome or a thumbs down. Dragging the > recruitment out only makes it harder to get new recruits. They are, in > effect, working against themselves and their own goal. > > >> glad i never knew you when i was a gentoo dev >> > > I have been recruited 3 times to be a dev, and declined. I find the gentoo > hierarchy and organization stifling and the amount of roadblocks to > progress ridiculous. > > I appreciate your POV. Yes, you can't expect too much from volunteers. > But, in a worldwide linux distribution, which is run more or less like a > business, there is a higher standard that should be adhered to. I don't > accept slackers or inefficiency in my business, and nor should gentoo. > > Why are you no longer a gentoo-dev, btw? > >
because i was sick of people discussing things that they knew shite about and cluttering up the mailinglists. you _can't_ compare gentoo with a business. simple as that arf, why did i even start... /me closes dev mailbox for another month -- gentoo-dev@g.o mailing list

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Delay in approval of new developers Peter <sw98234@×××××××.com>