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On 12/05/2017 11:25 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand <k_f@g.o> wrote: |
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>> On 12/05/2017 11:12 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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>>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Daniel Campbell <zlg@g.o> wrote: |
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>>>> I think the plan to split mailing lists serves as a way to insulate |
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>>>> developers from the effects of their decisions. Anyone with an |
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>>>> incongenial tone will have their voice bit revoked and their mail will |
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>>>> be dropped or rejected. |
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>>> And what would you do when somebody repeatedly sexually harasses other |
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>>> members of the community in private after being told to stop, and then |
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>>> acts as if they're the victim on the public mailing lists? |
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>> This doesn't seem relevant to the matter of splitting the lists, and |
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>> would certainly be a matter for comrel. |
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> What do you do when they keep posting manifestos or whatever on the |
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> lists every few months, or generally stirring up the community about |
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> how unjustly they're being treated? When the appeal is to popular |
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> opinion, instead of the defined process for handling these appeals? |
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> Ultimately it isn't that hard to convince newcomers that Gentoo is |
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> full of backstabbing when you let people allege that and have the last |
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> word whenever it fancies them to do so. |
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> The point of prior restraint is so that our mailing lists don't turn |
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> into the most negative PR imaginable. |
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The difference would be that you, in your first example, can demonstrate |
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some actual abuse. In the latter case you're talking about differences |
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of opinions of how things are run, which quickly turns into censorship. |
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