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On Thursday 28 October 2004 1:53 am, you wrote: |
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> Are they sysfs design flaws or udev design flaws. The reason I ask, is |
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> that a bunch of kernel developers were talking about rewriting the |
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> current hotplug/udev system. |
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sysfs works great. I use it regardless of udev. The main problem is that udev |
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defeats the entire purpose of modules. Using udev, you must preload any |
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modules you want to use manually. If you do that, you might as well compile |
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them into your kernel. I'd much rather not have the driver for any of my |
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devices loaded until I actually need them. |
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> But they would still be using sysfs. Also I am curious as to what "new" USB |
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> Mass Storage driver you are referring to? The current mainstream kernel's |
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> driver was updated about 4 months ago, and still presents itself as a low |
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> level scsi driver to the kernel (meaning it needs scsi.ko and sd.ko) |
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Well, I noticed they were suddenly "udX" when I moved to 2.6.9... Now that I |
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think of it, I'm not sure I tested 2.6.9 w/o udev, so it might have been a |
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udev naming thing that I just assumed meant the device was a USB disk (w/o |
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emulation)... Either way, it didn't work very well for me (e.g. I couldn't |
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use my IDE->USB adaptor). |
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> |
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> > -----Original Message----- |
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> > From: Luke-Jr [mailto:luke-jr@×××××××.org] |
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> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:06 PM |
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> > To: Stuart Stegall |
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> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing? |
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> > |
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> > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 11:17 pm, you wrote: |
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> > > What kind of problems have you experienced? Since 2.6.7 and |
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> > |
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> > onward, I |
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> > |
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> > > have had 0 problems of any kind. Currently I am running 2.6.10rc1 |
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> > > myself. (10 out of 340 servers in my apache rotation are as well) |
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> > |
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> > In particular, the new USB Mass Storage drivers (formerly, |
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> > SCSI emulation was |
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> > used) caused nothing but problems... Perhaps not a big issue |
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> > by itself, but I |
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> > had been switching to udev (from devfs) at the same time, so |
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> > that made it |
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> > seem much worse. |
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> > Regarding udev, needless to say I'm back to devfs... udev |
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> > just has too many |
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> > design flaws to counter the few benefits. |
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> > |
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> > > > -----Original Message----- |
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> > > > From: Luke-Jr [mailto:luke-jr@×××××××.org] |
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> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:32 AM |
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> > > > To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o |
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> > > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing? |
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> > > > |
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> > > > On Wednesday 27 October 2004 2:45 pm, Soos Istvan wrote: |
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> > > > > > And if you do not have a NForce2 or 3 chipset, then |
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> > > > |
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> > > > please don't use |
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> > > > |
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> > > > > > the kernel agpgart with ati-drivers, as I have never gotten |
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> > > > > > stability with ati-drivers and external agpgart. |
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> > > > > |
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> > > > > It is stable now. :) (2.6.9 kernel agpgart, 3.14.1 |
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> > > > |
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> > > > ati-drivers, 6.7.0 |
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> > > > |
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> > > > > xorg-x11, SiS Chipset, 3D accelleration works perfect) |
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> > > > |
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> > > > eck... had nothing but problems w/ 2.6.9 |
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> > > > -- |
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> > > > Luke-Jr |
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> > > > Developer, Utopios |
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> > > > http://utopios.org/ |
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> > > > |
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> > > > -- |
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> > > > gentoo-desktop@g.o mailing list |
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> > |
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> > -- |
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> > Luke-Jr |
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> > Developer, Utopios |
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> > http://utopios.org/ |
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Luke-Jr |
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Developer, Utopios |
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http://utopios.org/ |
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