Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

[Alexis Ballier]

On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:09:15 +0200
Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote:

> El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 14:51 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió:
> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200
> > Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is
> > > technically better, we need to try to get it used when possible (I
> > > mean, when, for example, eclasses are ported) for a "QA"
> > > reasoning.
> >
> > i think we all agree that there are improvements in newer eapis.
> >
> > what about filling bugs, preferably with patches, when such
> > improvements are really needed ? like what was done for nuking
> > built_with_use.
> >
> > arguing to death if 'should use latest eapi' should become 'must use
> > latest eapi' will never get things done :)
> >
> >
>
> Because it will add even more work, I mean:
> - I catch a package using and old eapi and, then, still not passing
> --disable-silent-rules option. => First problem, I need to notice that
> package, there are packages I simply won't notice because I don't
> merge them ever or, simply, I don't notice that option is not being
> used.

i dont see that many blockers of bug #429308 ; it probably doesn't even
reach 1% of packages using old eapis. perhaps because silent rules are
not enabled by default afaik.

> - I need to report a bug per each package using old eapi => I would
> need to report a ton of bugs for bumping eapi that, probably, I could
> have directly bumped myself if I would be allowed to (I already do it
> in my maintained packages and maintainer-needed ones, but not for
> others as maybe their maintainers dislike...)
>
> - Maintainer need to check that bug and commit the change or reject
> the bump (in that case we would be blocked if maintainer doesn't bump
> it for some strange reason). There are also some devs really slow to
> reply.

filling a bug has one advantage you forgot: training fellow
developers. if you say simply bumping the eapi will get improvements for
free (whatever they are) to the maintainer, then she will be very happy
to bump it i'd guess and have learnt that its good practices to do so.

if you volunteer to do some conversions you can probably ask people to
grant you permission to convert their ebuilds.

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