Gentoo Archives: gentoo-devrel

From: Deedra Waters <dmwaters@g.o>
To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-devrel] devrel meeting etc
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:35:10
Message-Id: Pine.LNX.4.63.0509061533540.6803@monster
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-devrel] devrel meeting etc by Mike Frysinger
I've seen a lot of discussions in the past, and i see it coming again
with this one. i think the reality of impartiality is that if you want
someone to be utterly nutral then you might as well bring in someone who
doesn't deal with the gentoo community at all.
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Mike Frysinger wrote:

> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 16:17:14 -0400 > From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o> > Reply-To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o > To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o > Subject: Re: [gentoo-devrel] devrel meeting etc > > On Tuesday 06 September 2005 03:38 pm, Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Paul Varner wrote: >>> My gut reaction to reading this proposal was no! While I can see a need >>> for reducing the number of people involved with a complaint, I firmly >>> feel that in order to ensure fairness in the complaint process that >>> there needs to be checks and balances in place. The recent changes to >>> split the investigative from the judical side of developer relations and >>> make everything transparent as possible does much to accomplish this. >>> >>> I strongly feel that moving back to a small committee would be a step >>> backwards in that respect. >> >> Why can't a small committee be fair? Where are the checks and balances >> in the "new" structure? I see one group investigating, another deciding >> the punishment, but no insurance that the latter group won't go >> overboard with punishment or give people a slap on the wrist for a major >> problem. > > each committee is supposed to be a check on the other, plus there is the > council as a check to the whole devrel process if it's needed (which it > hopefully shouldnt be) > >> I agree that transparency is a good thing, but I disagree that >> increasing the bureaucracy does much besides increase the time necessary >> to get anything done. > > maybe, but i thought the idea wasnt setup just to address a 'check' system, > but also to keep things impartial ... it's hard for people who do the > 'investigating' to stay completely partial (look at the fun discussions that > have happened in the past), so there is the other group to assess the > findings and all that jazz with a fresh imparital eye on things > -mike >
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