Gentoo Archives: gentoo-devrel

From: George Prowse <cokehabit2003@××××××××.uk>
To: gentoo-devrel@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-devrel] Proposal of Change to the Gentoo User Relations Project
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:26:55
Message-Id: 44083603.4050104@yahoo.co.uk
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-devrel] Proposal of Change to the Gentoo User Relations Project by Ciaran McCreesh
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:51:51 +0000 George Prowse > <cokehabit2003@××××××××.uk> wrote: > | If they dont go on them how do they know they dont like them? We know > | that quite a few developers do. We need more to show that devs aren't > | these "unapproachable" creatures. Why do you need to search through > | them, just to go "Portage and Programming" and see if you can help... > > You're assuming that developers don't go at all. I'd be strongly > inclined to believe that many developers have gone by the forums, at > least briefly, and found reasons not to stay.
Your point is? Many have gone to the forums and stayed as well. It is not 100% either way so all we can do is try to improve the forums to the point that it's usability makes it a more attractive form of communication between developers and users.
> > But then, with an attitude that "the forums are perfect and anyone who > says otherwise is out to get us", how will anyone ever find out?
Considering that I asked you for your suggestions, then told you that you gave a good one and consequently gave a couple myself should show you that your *assumed* view towards my (and perhaps the forum's staff) attitude is incorrect.
> > | Do you think that your attitude towards the forums, developers, > | projects, users and unofficial Gentoo projects helps as well? > | Remember, I am not a developer but I can see, read and hear and from > | a users POV your tact leaves a lot to be desired. Instead of > | rubbishing the forums you could have suggested the improvements in > | your first email in the manner that you eventually did and we > | wouldn't have any of this now, instead you seem intent on turning it > | into another "webapp-config" > > Instead of immediately assuming that I am out to get everyone, you > could have asked for clarification on points where you're unclear. Take > a look at the "QA Roles v2" thread on -dev for how things *should* work > -- when someone is unsure or doesn't see a point, they ask for an > explanation. That way any questions get answered quickly, without huge > amounts of space being wasted on things that everyone already knows. > > The way threads degenerate is when people start leaping to conclusions > and making wild accusations based upon small amounts of material that > they are misinterpreting. Or, occasionally, when someone starts posting > eight page explanations of things everyone already knows... >
Good, it seems like you understand yourself then. anme@g.o already suggested you took any problems to http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3048180.html#3048180 so if you have some good advice - and it seems like you do, please help them make Gentoo a happier place. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFECDYDz/6yU8dAfVERAk4hAKDbd/DekaO6XYZZDvzmsVhXDIy4kgCdE8jH z4aa3HCbrdvuFqihDnyBk68= =O6sx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-devrel@g.o mailing list