Gentoo Archives: gentoo-installer

From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>
To: gentoo-installer@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later?
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 20:52:13
Message-Id: 1129841519.11559.58.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-installer] Gentoo installer vs current installation method, what about later? by Michael Crute
1 On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 16:28 -0400, Michael Crute wrote:
2 > On 10/20/05, Andrew Gaffney <agaffney@g.o> wrote:
3 > Michael Crute wrote:
4 > > On 10/20/05, *Mike Rosset* <schizoid29@×××××.com
5 > > <mailto:schizoid29@×××××.com>> wrote:
6 > >
7 > > I've all ready asked for those and got shot down
8 > appartently Chris
9 > > wont release them. Also Chris will try to bump this to
10 > another list
11 > > releng, more then likely
12 > >
13 > >
14 > > Why not release them? Is this not open source? What's so
15 > secret about an
16 > > iso image?
17 >
18 > Let's not start this again. It comes down to this:
19 >
20 > * they are a work in progress, constantly changing
21 > * they don't work with the released version of catalyst
22 >
23 > OK, fine, thats good enough for me. I dont want to start some war
24 > between Chris and Mike.
25 >
26 > Another idea though, why not patch catalyst so they work and release
27 > them. For pete sake people this is open source, must we bicker about
28
29 The catalyst changes would make catalyst unusable for anything *other*
30 than creating a LiveCD. On my machine, I actually have 3 versions of
31 catalyst currently.
32
33 catalyst - vanilla catalyst 1.1.10.10
34 catalyst2 - a catalyst 2.0 snapshot from today, being tested currently
35 catalyst-livecd - my hand-hacked catalyst
36
37 At any rate, it has nothing to do with open source. I'm not giving out
38 some kind of "binary" version of my hacked catalyst, so there's no
39 requirement anywhere for me to give out anything. Most of the custom
40 code is being slowly cleaned up and put into something usable, which
41 will be released in catalyst 2.0. The "problem" is stemming from people
42 that cannot accept that I won't put out shit code *now* and refuse to
43 wait until it is released code.
44
45 > "proprietary" shit? In any case I am perfectly happy with the minimal
46 > CD as it is now, I'm more curious than anything about these secret
47 > spec files.
48
49 There's nothing special about the spec files. They look just like any
50 other spec file. The "butter" is in the fsscript.sh, along with the
51 catalyst changes.
52
53 --
54 Chris Gianelloni
55 Release Engineering - Strategic Lead
56 x86 Architecture Team
57 Games - Developer
58 Gentoo Linux

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