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From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-java@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] OpenJDK, IcedTea and Package Naming
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:00:45
Message-Id: f470f68e0809141000t15e162cs5c64ee47102a5b1@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-java] OpenJDK, IcedTea and Package Naming by Andrew John Hughes
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Andrew John Hughes
<gnu_andrew@××××××××××.org> wrote:
> 2008/9/14 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>: >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Andrew John Hughes >> <gnu_andrew@××××××××××.org> wrote: >>> 2008/9/14 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>: >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Andrew John Hughes >>>> <gnu_andrew@××××××××××.org> wrote: >>>>> 2008/9/13 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>:
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>>>>> given it doesn't yet have a complete implementation of even 1.5. >>>> >>>> if sun had honoured it's agreement to allow access to the TCK by open >>>> source projects, then harmony (and the free JVMs) would have had >>>> certified 1.5 implementations a year ago and (most likely) 1.6 ones as >>>> well by now. this is a political issue, not a code one. >>>> >>> >>> I seriously doubt that, given it took OpenJDK a year to pass the 1.6 >>> TCK, despite >>> being based on a codebase, the majority of which has passed as part of >>> the proprietary work. >> >> you'd be surprised :-) >> >> at least one major corporation has taken a derived work based on >> harmony codebase through the TCK >> > > Is this the TreeMap? If so, it's one class which they modified heavily > themselves > so that it worked as part of 1.6.
no: one of the major alternative TCK'd JVMs is derived from harmony code
>> and ask yourself if google would have based andriod on harmony unless >> it worked... >> > > I didn't say it didn't work, I said it wasnt' likely to pass the TCK > without a lot of work. > You could of course link the Harmony class library up to HotSpot, > apply for the OpenJDK6 TCK > to certify that combination and prove me wrong.
would that i could :-) sun has been saying 'not yet' to harmony certification for a number of years. (just FTR it's not just harmony but any alternative FOSS JVM.) - robert

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Re: [gentoo-java] OpenJDK, IcedTea and Package Naming Andrew John Hughes <gnu_andrew@××××××××××.org>