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From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-java@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] OpenJDK, IcedTea and Package Naming
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:00:45
Message-Id: f470f68e0809141000t15e162cs5c64ee47102a5b1@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-java] OpenJDK, IcedTea and Package Naming by Andrew John Hughes
1 On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Andrew John Hughes
2 <gnu_andrew@××××××××××.org> wrote:
3 > 2008/9/14 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>:
4 >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Andrew John Hughes
5 >> <gnu_andrew@××××××××××.org> wrote:
6 >>> 2008/9/14 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>:
7 >>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 2:21 AM, Andrew John Hughes
8 >>>> <gnu_andrew@××××××××××.org> wrote:
9 >>>>> 2008/9/13 Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@×××××.com>:
10
11 <snip>
12
13 >>>>> given it doesn't yet have a complete implementation of even 1.5.
14 >>>>
15 >>>> if sun had honoured it's agreement to allow access to the TCK by open
16 >>>> source projects, then harmony (and the free JVMs) would have had
17 >>>> certified 1.5 implementations a year ago and (most likely) 1.6 ones as
18 >>>> well by now. this is a political issue, not a code one.
19 >>>>
20 >>>
21 >>> I seriously doubt that, given it took OpenJDK a year to pass the 1.6
22 >>> TCK, despite
23 >>> being based on a codebase, the majority of which has passed as part of
24 >>> the proprietary work.
25 >>
26 >> you'd be surprised :-)
27 >>
28 >> at least one major corporation has taken a derived work based on
29 >> harmony codebase through the TCK
30 >>
31 >
32 > Is this the TreeMap? If so, it's one class which they modified heavily
33 > themselves
34 > so that it worked as part of 1.6.
35
36 no: one of the major alternative TCK'd JVMs is derived from harmony code
37
38 >> and ask yourself if google would have based andriod on harmony unless
39 >> it worked...
40 >>
41 >
42 > I didn't say it didn't work, I said it wasnt' likely to pass the TCK
43 > without a lot of work.
44 > You could of course link the Harmony class library up to HotSpot,
45 > apply for the OpenJDK6 TCK
46 > to certify that combination and prove me wrong.
47
48 would that i could :-)
49
50 sun has been saying 'not yet' to harmony certification for a number of
51 years. (just FTR it's not just harmony but any alternative FOSS JVM.)
52
53 - robert

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