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You brought up quite a tirade of topics... I'd recommend splitting them |
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up so we can at least have some focus. |
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Thufir wrote: |
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> I've been sifting through the archives on these topics and would like |
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> a status report on java. stat ;) |
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> |
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> The best thing would be for gcj to catch-up to Java 5, but that won't |
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> be for a while. There are several threads about ebuilds |
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> auto-magically fetching a Sun JRE or JDK, displaying a license and |
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> then installing. That also would be nice in a more perfect world, but |
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> fetching a binary via the web browser every now and then isn't the |
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> greatest inconvenience in the world. |
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> |
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a) I'm pretty sure your sources are out of date. Sun's JRE and JDK as of |
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1.5.0.06 are freely distributable, as in, they are on our mirrors. |
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b) The method you describe isn't how it was done. You would be prompted |
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to go a web site. You would then have to visit the site, and click |
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through the license |
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> However, even were the Sun JDK easily installed as described above, |
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> it'd still be masked, as I understand, due to some source files in |
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> Gentoo not working with Java 5 due to problems with reserved words. |
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Ok, you are really behind the ball here :) |
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http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/nichoj/2006/05/22/of_java_1_5_and_gentoo |
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http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/nichoj/2006/06/26/the_new_java_hotness |
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http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/nichoj/2006/06/29/update_the_new_java_hotness |
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http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/nichoj/2006/07/01/updated_java_system_and_java_1_5_unmaske |
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> |
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> Then there's the philosophical problem with distributing compiled |
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> classes instead of building a java app from source. |
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> |
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https://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java/wiki/Why_build_from_source |
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> Finally, I was amazed to read that maven is, apparently, |
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> windows-centric. Very disappointing. |
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> |
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Where was it ever said on this list that it was windows centric? I think |
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this is actualy the first time I remember windows even being brought up |
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on this list. The problem, as has been pointed out in subthread, is that |
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it is incredibly difficult to package sanely. |
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> The bottom line appears to be that java for Linux sucked, got better, |
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> but still sucks and will continue to suck for the foreseeable future. |
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> Yes? |
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> |
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Erm, no? Java on Gentoo is quite good, and will only get better in the |
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foreseeable future. |
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