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On 4/22/07, William L. Thomson Jr. <wltjr@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Sun, 2007-04-22 at 18:48 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: |
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> > |
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> > the governance issues raised by the apache open letter are still |
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> > outstanding and unresolved. the story of the first decade of the JCP |
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> > has very much been intertwined with the story of jakarta and the |
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> > relationship between apache and sun. it's unclear ATM whether this |
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> > relationship will survive. |
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> From what I have seen and heard that relationship ended some time ago. I |
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> do not believe any Sun peeps are committing to apache/jakarta projects. |
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jakarta has been split into top level projects |
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there is plenty of activity elsewhere at apache involving committers |
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with links to sun. see for example |
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http://incubator.apache.org/projects/river.html, |
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http://db.apache.org/jdo/, http://shale.apache.org/ (i could do on but |
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won't). however, i'm not sure how many of those work on apache code as |
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part of their job. |
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> From poking around glassfish-servlet-api seems to be based on jakarta |
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> tomcat sources, which is basically Tomcat 4.x(maybe 5.0.x, surely not |
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> 5.5.x). |
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that doesn't surprise me |
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> Since Tomcat as of 4.x was the official reference implementation of |
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> servlet 2.3/jsp 1.2 api's. But not clear if that's the case for 5.0 or |
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> 5.x 2.4/2.0, and surely not with 6.x 2.5/2.1. |
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J2EE1.4 (2.4) RI contains tomcat but i don't think there's a separate |
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RI for the servlet container specification |
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> Seems there were some differences there amongst developers, and it has |
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> been pretty much completely severed. |
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most of the 3.x/4.x tomcat developers have moved onto new open source |
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projects. i don't know of any who are working on servlet containers |
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anymore outside apache. |
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> I also noticed in glassfish some |
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> sun-commons stuff, so not sure if they are duplicating that as well. |
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most likely that's just part of their effort to open sourcing most of |
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their code base |
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> No clue where all this is going, aside from having multiple |
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> implementations for allot of things. But surely seems as if there has |
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> been a fork. |
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the fork really happened back with the tomcat 3.0 donation. the apache |
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implementation has been independent since then. |
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- robert |
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