Gentoo Archives: gentoo-java

From: Joshua Nichols <nichoj@g.o>
To: "Peter B. West" <lists@××××××.au>
Cc: gentoo-java@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-java] Question about Sun-Jdk 1.4.2.10
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:13:41
Message-Id: 1133313131.2968.25.camel@metaverse
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-java] Question about Sun-Jdk 1.4.2.10 by "Peter B. West"
1 > So who wants to run a 1.4 JDK? And what, exactly, prevents anything
2 > from being compiled under 1.5? The only thing I can think of is the
3 > user of the newly reserved word 'enum'. Big deal. How long has 1.5
4 > been around now?
5 Have you actually tried using a 1.5 JDK to emerge your system? I'm
6 guessing not, because xerces, xalan, and dom4j won't compile with 1.5,
7 and they are pretty critical XML libraries that lots of things use.
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9 Actually, there are a number of incompatibilities:
10 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/compatibility.html#incompatibilities
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13 > My perception is that there is only an ideological impediment to going
14 > with 1.5. That is that it will be a long time before the
15 > Stallman-approved JVMs support 1.5. So, the Java herd on Gentoo Stalls
16 > the adoption of 1.5, just to "prove" that 1) you don't need it, and 2)
17 > it's a very bad thing. Or at least it will be until the "free as in
18 > slaves to ideology" crowd get their act together. Thanks for nothing.
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20 Somehow, I must have missed the conspiracy memo.... Seriously though,
21 where the heck did this come from?
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23 I think you're seriously overestimating the manpower working on Java
24 support for Gentoo. There are now 10 developers (I'm a recent addition),
25 with 3 currently on leave. Of those 7, most of them have some sort of
26 life outside of Gentoo. With some 300+ packages to maintain with some
27 200 outstanding bugs, there isn't a lot of time/effort remaining for new
28 and exciting stuff.
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30 Plus, it's not like there hasn't been work towards 1.5 support. See the
31 1.5 metabug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65937
32 Additionally, Thomas (axxo) has been working on an overlay for the past
33 six months or so to support 1.5, as was previously announced
34 (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.java/605). He must not have
35 gotten the memo either.
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40 So how can one help with supporting 1.5? Testing and provididing
41 feedback on axxo-overlay would be the most useful. There are some
42 details on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/ but I hope to add more
43 details sometime this evening.
44
45 Regards,
46 Josh
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Re: [gentoo-java] Question about Sun-Jdk 1.4.2.10 "Peter B. West" <lists@××××××.au>