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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-mips@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 17:41:39
Message-Id: 53691E70.3050101@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages by "Anthony G. Basile"
1 On 05/06/2014 12:32 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:
2 > On 05/06/2014 03:07 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
3 >> On 05/06/2014 01:09 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
4 >>> On 05/05/2014 19:36, Matt Turner wrote:
5 >>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o> wrote:
6 >>>>> I cannot speak for anything outside of the standard/original MIPS
7 >>>>> ISAs, but
8 >>>>> I thought we killed off mips1 long ago. When did that come back?
9 >>>>> Almost
10 >>>>> anything out there should be able to handle mips2 at a bare minimum
11 >>>>> (only
12 >>>>> R2000 and R3000-based systems, like certain DECStations, would need
13 >>>>> mips1).
14 >>>>> mips2 is also the branch point for the mips32r* ISAs, so if any
15 >>>>> of the
16 >>>>> original, 32-bit ISAs should be kept, that would be mips2. mips1
17 >>>>> can go.
18 >>>>
19 >>>> We've had this discussion before. If you're going to have >mips2
20 >>>> stages, then there's zero reason to have mips2 stages since mips2
21 >>>> effectively doesn't exist.
22 >>>
23 >>> It's been a while, but I thought we only kept a mips2 stage1 around for
24 >>> those that wanted a baseline to build their own stage2 or stage3's from.
25 >>> You can do this with a mips1 as well, but mips2 is, more or less, the
26 >>> baseline from which all other possible ISAs and stages can be built
27 >>> from, as
28 >>> long as you don't care about R2k or R3k CPUs. stage3's can be the
29 >>> higher
30 >>> mips32r* ISAs.
31 >>>
32 >>> I personally don't see a point in having mips1 or mips2 stage3's, only a
33 >>> stage1 to use as a bootstrap for new machines or ISAs.
34 >>>
35 >>
36 >> (picking up a random thread)
37 >>
38 >> Ok thanks for the replies.
39 >>
40 >> Ok I think it's safe to proceed with the following:
41 >> - Stop mips1 builds (we don't have mips2)
42 >> - Reduce the frequency to once-a-year for mips3 and mips4. Updating
43 >> these stages every year with catalyst will be a lot of fun ;)
44 >>
45 >> @kumba: You mentioned too many times that I wanted to "drop" support for
46 >> mips3 and mips4. I never said that (I am sort-of tired keep repeating
47 >> that). All I said (again) was to reduce the frequency or stop building
48 >> them at all. Users can still get an existing mips3/mips4 stage3 and
49 >> update themselves
50 >>
51 >
52 > mipsel3 is used for the lemote. Are you sure we should drop it?
53 >
54
55 No, I can still do that.
56
57 --
58 Regards,
59 Markos Chandras