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From: "Anthony G. Basile" <basile@××××××××××××××.edu>
To: gentoo-mips@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 11:32:31
Message-Id: 5368C856.3010602@opensource.dyc.edu
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages by Markos Chandras
1 On 05/06/2014 03:07 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
2 > On 05/06/2014 01:09 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
3 >> On 05/05/2014 19:36, Matt Turner wrote:
4 >>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o> wrote:
5 >>>> I cannot speak for anything outside of the standard/original MIPS ISAs, but
6 >>>> I thought we killed off mips1 long ago. When did that come back? Almost
7 >>>> anything out there should be able to handle mips2 at a bare minimum (only
8 >>>> R2000 and R3000-based systems, like certain DECStations, would need mips1).
9 >>>> mips2 is also the branch point for the mips32r* ISAs, so if any of the
10 >>>> original, 32-bit ISAs should be kept, that would be mips2. mips1 can go.
11 >>>
12 >>> We've had this discussion before. If you're going to have >mips2
13 >>> stages, then there's zero reason to have mips2 stages since mips2
14 >>> effectively doesn't exist.
15 >>
16 >> It's been a while, but I thought we only kept a mips2 stage1 around for
17 >> those that wanted a baseline to build their own stage2 or stage3's from.
18 >> You can do this with a mips1 as well, but mips2 is, more or less, the
19 >> baseline from which all other possible ISAs and stages can be built from, as
20 >> long as you don't care about R2k or R3k CPUs. stage3's can be the higher
21 >> mips32r* ISAs.
22 >>
23 >> I personally don't see a point in having mips1 or mips2 stage3's, only a
24 >> stage1 to use as a bootstrap for new machines or ISAs.
25 >>
26 >
27 > (picking up a random thread)
28 >
29 > Ok thanks for the replies.
30 >
31 > Ok I think it's safe to proceed with the following:
32 > - Stop mips1 builds (we don't have mips2)
33 > - Reduce the frequency to once-a-year for mips3 and mips4. Updating
34 > these stages every year with catalyst will be a lot of fun ;)
35 >
36 > @kumba: You mentioned too many times that I wanted to "drop" support for
37 > mips3 and mips4. I never said that (I am sort-of tired keep repeating
38 > that). All I said (again) was to reduce the frequency or stop building
39 > them at all. Users can still get an existing mips3/mips4 stage3 and
40 > update themselves
41 >
42
43 mipsel3 is used for the lemote. Are you sure we should drop it?
44
45 --
46 Anthony G. Basile, Ph. D.
47 Chair of Information Technology
48 D'Youville College
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Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>