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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-mips@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages
Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 07:08:44
Message-Id: 53688A17.2070509@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages by Joshua Kinard
1 On 05/06/2014 01:09 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote:
2 > On 05/05/2014 19:36, Matt Turner wrote:
3 >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o> wrote:
4 >>> I cannot speak for anything outside of the standard/original MIPS ISAs, but
5 >>> I thought we killed off mips1 long ago. When did that come back? Almost
6 >>> anything out there should be able to handle mips2 at a bare minimum (only
7 >>> R2000 and R3000-based systems, like certain DECStations, would need mips1).
8 >>> mips2 is also the branch point for the mips32r* ISAs, so if any of the
9 >>> original, 32-bit ISAs should be kept, that would be mips2. mips1 can go.
10 >>
11 >> We've had this discussion before. If you're going to have >mips2
12 >> stages, then there's zero reason to have mips2 stages since mips2
13 >> effectively doesn't exist.
14 >
15 > It's been a while, but I thought we only kept a mips2 stage1 around for
16 > those that wanted a baseline to build their own stage2 or stage3's from.
17 > You can do this with a mips1 as well, but mips2 is, more or less, the
18 > baseline from which all other possible ISAs and stages can be built from, as
19 > long as you don't care about R2k or R3k CPUs. stage3's can be the higher
20 > mips32r* ISAs.
21 >
22 > I personally don't see a point in having mips1 or mips2 stage3's, only a
23 > stage1 to use as a bootstrap for new machines or ISAs.
24 >
25
26 (picking up a random thread)
27
28 Ok thanks for the replies.
29
30 Ok I think it's safe to proceed with the following:
31 - Stop mips1 builds (we don't have mips2)
32 - Reduce the frequency to once-a-year for mips3 and mips4. Updating
33 these stages every year with catalyst will be a lot of fun ;)
34
35 @kumba: You mentioned too many times that I wanted to "drop" support for
36 mips3 and mips4. I never said that (I am sort-of tired keep repeating
37 that). All I said (again) was to reduce the frequency or stop building
38 them at all. Users can still get an existing mips3/mips4 stage3 and
39 update themselves
40
41 --
42 Regards,
43 Markos Chandras

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages Joshua Kinard <kumba@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-mips] Reducing the number of the MIPS supported stages "Anthony G. Basile" <basile@××××××××××××××.edu>