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On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 02:17 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: |
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> William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: |
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> > For more of a fun thread. I am just going to list a bunch of ideas I |
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> > personally have had wrt to what Gentoo could do with money. They are not |
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> > listed in any particular order. |
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> > 1. Provide all devs with a base development system |
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> Oh cool, wait no. There is a direct adopt-a-dev stuff people could think |
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> more personal and fun. |
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Oh yeah, I forgot because the list is empty, and all devs have |
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everything they could want or need. Right, what was I thinking. |
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http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/userrel/adopt-a-dev/ |
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I bet the request to fulfillment rate is quite low. But yes it works so |
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lets keep doing things that way. Forget considering any others. |
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> > 2. Sponsors devs to travel to events, seminars, summits, etc |
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> > 3. Sponsors devs for educational purposes, certifications, college, |
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> > trade courses, etc |
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> > 4. Hold an annual Gentoo Conference for all developers and users |
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> > 5. Pay for infra services |
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> > 6. Buy bitchen hardware and toys for infra |
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> > 8. Increase schwag and freebie stuff to give away at events |
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> > 9. Sponsors development via Gentoo summer of code, or fall, |
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> > winter, or spring summer of code. |
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> meh, non core stuff sponsors usually provide. |
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Really who? Who does anything like that other than Google? Again back to |
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the sponsors. So go find one or more. If it's so easy, then we should |
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have these things already. |
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> > 7. Buy new hardware to install/certify Gentoo on ( PS 4, new procs, |
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> > big iron, etc) |
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> Usually certification happens from the other side... |
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Right, FYI I got that concept from a Redhat employee and engineer. It |
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does not happen from the other side. It's called vendor relationships, |
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and we have 0 like RH, Suse, Ubuntu, and others have. |
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Notice how Ubuntu and Sun partnered to have Glassfish certified for |
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development purposes on Ubuntu. We have NO JEE anything. Not even for |
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development. Much less JEE severs for people to run. |
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Your comments, oh just find a sponsor or someone to do it. Well despite |
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years of calls for help, efforts by a few contributors. We still have no |
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JEE server, no JBoss, no Glassfish, no WebLogic, etc. The first two are |
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FOSS, but HUGE, and require 1-2 dedicated maintainers. |
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Which even if maintained 100%, neither Sun or RH would certify their JEE |
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server on Gentoo. Last I checked some of Sun's certification TCK or etc |
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process required payment. It's not a free certification process. |
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> > 10. Donate/contribute to other projects and charities |
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> We donate already patches, space and so on. |
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This is a thread about $. Nice way to tweak things to your point of view |
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though. |
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> > 11. Purchase membership for Gentoo in other foundations ( Gentoo |
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> > being a member of Gnome foundation, or etc ) |
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> Depressing. |
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To you. So that also means no representation in Gnome. So when Gnome |
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does something that benefits other distros. We just have to sit there, |
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like it, and take what we get. |
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> > 12. Provide hardware to devs working on certain areas, device |
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> > drivers etc ( like buying a bunch of video cards for those |
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> > supporting binary drivers, or odd/expensive hardware ) |
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> Usually hw is provided by the people making it for that purpose. |
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Really, so AMD/ATI and nVidia provide us hardware now? We have no users, |
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using any ATI or nVidia card right now. Good to know. |
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Also our livecd's have drivers ready to go for any RAID, SCSI, etc cards |
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out there. |
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> > 13. Buy licenses to commercial apps so we can package and make |
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> > ebuilds available for them. |
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> AHAHAHA no, the commercial app corp could provide us with a license if |
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> they want us to package their stuff. |
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Yep, and so how many have done that? Who does that effect us or our |
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users? |
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> > 14. Provide FREE release media |
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> Why? |
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Um, have you ever looked into the costs. Per others comments, it was a |
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lose $ deal. So why not just do it for free entirely. It's cool, users |
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would like it. More people would be able to install and run Gentoo. |
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But yeah, getting people free install media to a free OS. That's |
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completely stupid. My bad. |
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> > 15. Marketing and promotional materials ( flyers to hand out at |
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> > events, banners, booth displays, etc ) |
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> The best advertising is the word passing from happy users to other |
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> people willing to try it. |
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Yeah, people at trade shows love to hear our words. They are so quick to |
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run and install Gentoo just because of our words. The remember Gentoo |
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hours later after they have visited several other booths, and gotten |
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media from them. |
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But yes our word of mouth stuff is so much better than any media. Heck |
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we don't need banners or anything in a booth. What was I thinking, we |
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can really grass roots this. I will bring some cardboard and write on it |
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Gentoo for LWE in August. Why didn't we do that sooner. |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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amd64/Java/Trustees |
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Gentoo Foundation |