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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Cc: hwoarang@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 11:04:45
Message-Id: 20130407130525.41c6caef@pomiocik.lan
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2013-04-09 by Markos Chandras
1 On Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:13:10 +0100
2 Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > On 7 April 2013 08:27, Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@××××××××××.com> wrote:
5 > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:05:11 -0600
6 > > Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@g.o> wrote:
7 > >> In short:
8 > >> Toolchain packages, for better or worse, are built by eclass. We are
9 > >> not forward-porting toolchain.eclass every time someone decides there
10 > >> are too many EAPIs in the tree. Every change to that eclass breaks
11 > >> something (the trick is to break things people don't care about any
12 > >> more and hope no one notices). I don't know the ins and outs of
13 > >> glibc's eblits but I doubt they would be simple to port either. I
14 > >> also don't know much about toolchain-binutils.eclass, but it seems
15 > >> like it would be doable.
16 > >
17 > > Sounds like a good opportunity to replace toolchain.eclass with
18 > > something clean and understandable.
19 >
20 > I see no reason to break something that works just fine as it is.
21
22 I'm afraid this is quite short-sighted.
23
24 Well, I have to believe that it works since I don't even try to get
25 nearby those ebuilds. Those are simply impossible to understand without
26 detailed study of all involved files, and those are huge.
27
28 The problem is that we can't assume it will work forever, and we can't
29 assume that if it stops working, there will be somebody around who
30 knows what is going on in there.
31
32 I see that the key components of Gentoo system are complex, fragile
33 and understood only by the few people who maintain them *now*. That
34 doesn't sound like a bright future to me.
35
36 --
37 Best regards,
38 Michał Górny

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