RE: [gentoo-releng] Gentoo 2004.1 Release

[Daniel Robbins]

> There are a number of managers and developers who are
> concerned with the viability/purpose and value of GRP.  At
> some point, we will need to re-visit this and decide if it's
> in the best interests of Gentoo to continue supporting, let
> alone expanding.

Urg, comments like this make me regret that I resigned from the project,
because just killing off GRP would be pretty harmful to the Gentoo user
base. But I guess that one of the risks of setting up a NFP is that the
trustees can shoot themselves in their collective feet if they want. Maybe I
should be glad my feet aren't included :)

If some developers and managers don't see any purpose in GRP, make sure they
have an answer for the thousands of users that they are supposed to be
serving and who depend on it for a fast install.

Eliminating GRP entirely without some larger vision for fast, pain-free
installs is a pretty bad idea. This is particularly important for end-users
who don't have 10 boxes at work to build things on. I would frankly ignore
anyone who doesn't like GRP and has no good proposed alternative for the
many users who use our GRP sets.

If they don't like GRP and have a _better_ idea for fast installs, that's
another thing entirely. Then they are trying to find a better way to address
user needs, rather than just selfishly ignoring them. You need to
differentiate between the two groups to figure out which ones are being lazy
and irresponsible and which are truly concerned for improving Gentoo's
offerings of quality install choices.  So when you mention "there are a
number of managers and developers" that are anti-GRP, it's not as important
*what* they think but *why* they think it.

Regards,

Daniel


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