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From: Marius Mauch <genone@g.o>
To: gentoo-server@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-server] forcing good passwords
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:13:13
Message-Id: 20060118050953.15c988de@sven.genone.homeip.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-server] forcing good passwords by "Paweł Madej"
1 On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:31:52 +0100
2 Paweł Madej <linux@××××××××.info> wrote:
3
4 > In some case yes, but you have to take into acount that [a-zA-Z0-9]
5 > and special signs that is very big volume of possible combinations.
6 > In this case I think that it is much more secure than 12 [a-zA-Z]
7 > password which could be named passphrase.
8
9 Well, hard to say what would be more secure, just pointing out that
10 12*[a-zA-Z] offers about 10.000-100.000 times more combinations than
11 8*[a-zA-Z0-9<special-chars>]:
12 52^12 = 390,877,006,486,250,192,896 ~ 3.9*10^20
13 95^8 = 6,634,204,312,890,625 ~ 6.6*10^15
14 (assuming 33 special chars, could be a few more or less).
15
16 And for completeness:
17 52^8 = 53,459,728,531,456 ~ 5.3*10^13
18 95^12 = 540,360,087,662,636,962,890,625 ~ 5.4*10^23
19
20 As said, that doesn't relate to practical security, just shows that in
21 theory changing the password length does more in terms of complexity
22 than changing the set of allowed chars.
23 And every combinational restriction added again decreases the
24 complexity.
25
26 Marius
27
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Re: [gentoo-server] forcing good passwords "Benjamin Smee (strerror)" <strerror@g.o>