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Hi all, I'm a student from China. I'm interested in this idea and have |
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different ideas to share. |
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于 2011-3-29 22:20, Brian Dolbec 写道: |
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> On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 08:53 -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: |
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>> On 18:54 Tue 29 Mar , Vikraman wrote: |
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>>> I've been doing research on this project for sometime, and would |
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>>> really like my ideas to be reviewed by the community before |
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>>> submitting my application. |
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>>> |
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>>> * User runs a script as a cronjob (or a portage hook ?), which |
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>>> collects stats on installed packages, and uploads to the online |
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>>> database. Surprisingly easy to code using the gentoolkit API. |
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> :) Thanks, anything else needed in there, just ask. |
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> |
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>> Sure, one of those two options sounds good. The choice can be easily |
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>> changed later, but I prefer the idea of a hook that runs after the |
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>> package manager completes installing a package set. |
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>> |
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>> People on laptops may not run cron jobs regularly, or at all. |
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> good point. |
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> |
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>>> * Webapp generates statistics on the packages (top packages, |
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>>> versions, popularity, packages from overlays). Thanks to ideas from |
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>>> an old thread on the forums. Devs, please suggest some more useful |
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>>> ideas/stats too. |
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>> For Gentoo users: |
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>> - Search by package name |
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>> - Search by packages often installed with this one (recommendations) |
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>> - Add ratings. Maybe just via the GUI frontend for now. |
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>> - Add user reputations and profiles. How many ratings, etc. Provide the |
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>> option of logging in as user or anonymously for package uploads. |
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>> |
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>> |
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I think the statistics about relationship between packages is more |
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important, because if the packages installed together run well and |
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appear together frequently, we can recommend one package to the user |
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when the other package is installed. and if the packages installed |
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together usually crash, there may be some problems between them. |
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So there can be more types of deep statistics that provide more useful |
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information. |
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>> Tools for Gentoo developers: |
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>> - Least popular packages |
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>> - Search by maintainer/herd |
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>> - Integrate with Bugzilla by showing # of bugs& linking to the list |
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>> - Integrate w/ BZ by showing # of tinderbox-related bugs |
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>> |
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>> For example, a useful search would be ≤20 users, package assigned to |
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>> maintainer-needed or maintainer wanted, and ≥1 open bugs. |
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>> |
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>>> * Dev/user runs a cli script to read stats or a gui program to |
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>>> display graphs. |
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>>> |
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>>> I'm looking forward to coding the project in Python, gui using |
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>>> PyGTK, database using MySQL. For the web service implementation, |
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>>> should I use SOAP (soappy, which I'll need to learn) or something |
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>>> like web.py (I've used it earlier) ? |
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>> What is the role of the GUI? Please describe the use cases and justify |
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>> why it should be a desktop app rather than a webapp. |
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> As much of a gui person as I am, I too think a web browser would be |
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> preferred connecting for this. It could also be expanded as the need or |
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> new query type comes up and then becomes available to all without the |
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> need to upgrade. |
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> |
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>> Consider REST for the web service rather than SOAP. There's a nice book |
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>> called "RESTful Web Services" you might like to take a look at. |
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>> |
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>>> It was also suggested earlier to allow a dev to trigger a popup |
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>>> feedback from the user. I think that would require the user ro run a |
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>>> daemon, which will listen for queries. |
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>> It doesn't necessarily have to be instant. Upon the next installation, |
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>> when uploading new stats, the client could check for messages. |
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> Yes, this was what I was trying to suggest at the time, perhaps I could |
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> have chosen better words :/ |
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> |
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>>> Please suggest what details to include and what not to include in |
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>>> the application. |
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>> Many resources exist on this topic: |
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>> - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/userrel/soc/applying.xml |
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>> - http://www.booki.cc/gsocstudentguide/_v/1.0/writing-a-proposal/ |
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>> - http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/03/dos-and-donts-of-google-summer-of-code.html |
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>> |
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> |
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The informations about installed packages are regularly uploaded to the |
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online database, but they are usually reduplicate because most of them |
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may be same. I think each host can be identified by a unique random id |
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that is used to track submissions issued by the same host. Security is |
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very important for this project, the host id should be kept secret. |
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Thanks, |
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Yanbo Wang |
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