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From: Michael Mol <mikemol@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world?
Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 03:53:05
Message-Id: CA+czFiBZM2nOQp=-5Bt9Xa8nu32SrVSfb+3A6FU4MoQ4ESLTMA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world? by Grant
1 On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Grant <emailgrant@×××××.com> wrote:
2 > It seems like ARM processors will destroy x86 before too long. Does anyone
3 > think this won't happen?
4
5 It's looking promising. Not that I have a horse in the race, but I
6 very much like ARM's low power consumption. The way I see it, they're
7 only a short list of features away from obliterating x86:
8
9 * I'd like to see fast division.
10 I keep hearing about how this or that is slow because of ARM's lack of
11 strong division.
12
13 * I'd like to see a modern baseline of strong instructions.
14 x86 kept continually improving in a very fragmented way, but there
15 were, from time to time, baseline collections of feature sets you
16 could expect all processors to have. i386 represented one. i686
17 represented one. Currently, it's x86_64, which implies not only a
18 64-bit flattened address space and a departure from real mode, but
19 also a collection of SIMD instruction sets and other features
20 developed between the release of the Pentium Pro and AMD's Hammer
21 architecture.
22
23 ARM just feels...fragmented. And I don't have the impression I could
24 write my code assuming the availability of SIMD (presuming I use
25 things like OpenMP to expand my code to leverage it, rather than
26 writing processor-specific code. Though OpenCL could very well
27 alleviate that issue.)
28
29 * I'd like to see virtualization be a thing.
30
31 Productivity and efficiency on x86 *soared* with the
32 compartmentalization that came with hardware-assisted (and therefore
33 cheap! and fast!) virtualization. I haven't heard about the same on
34 ARM, although Citrix is working hard on porting Xen there. Paravirt
35 may well be the first common means of virtualization on ARM...
36
37 --
38 :wq

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world? Florian Philipp <lists@×××××××××××.net>
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world? Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world? Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>