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From: Gevisz <gevisz@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:41:27
Message-Id: 5475922e.878d700a.7ba2.33a4@mx.google.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now by "Marc Stürmer"
1 On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 08:45:31 +0100 Marc Stürmer <mail@×××××××××××××.de> wrote:
2
3 > Am 25.11.2014 um 18:44 schrieb Gevisz:
4 >
5 > > It usually took me from 10 to 20 minutes to download my daily updates
6 > > in Ubuntu. For big packages - about 40 minutes or even more.
7 > >
8 > >> That's the time saving aspect
9 > >
10 > > lol :)
11 >
12 > Not "lol", it is like I told you. Binary distributions are a big, big
13 > time saver compared to a rolling update source based meta distribution
14 > like Gentoo.
15 >
16 > Another reason why many stick with Distros like e.g. Debian, SuSE or
17 > Ubuntu is:
18 >
19 > * you got a standardized environment/system.
20 >
21 > That's also a very big requirement if using it in a corporate
22 > environment, if not the most important one.
23
24 I do agree with you concerning the corporate environment.
25
26 Moreover, if I had to maintain a dozen or more *different* computers
27 for other users, I would prefer to use some binary distro with a
28 standardized environment than to set up a custom configuration
29 (including the kernel options) for each of them and then compile
30 everything on each computer.
31
32 However, I do prefer to setup every possible option for my convenience and
33 compile everything for the better performance on my personal computer.
34
35 And for a personal use and not super fast connection to the Internet,
36 spending time for downloading updates every day is indeed annoying.
37
38
39 Moreover, if I had to maintain computers for *other* users, I would not
40 mind to upgrade their binary distributions every 2 or, better, every 5 years
41 even if *their* working environment would every time change from Gnome2
42 to Unity and then back to Gnome3.
43
44 Especially, if it is not my duty to retrain them for this new environment. :)
45
46 But for myself, I would prefer that my desktop interface would change as
47 little as possible, and only in the direction I want. :)
48
49 > I am not saying that this is not doable with Gentoo, but to achieve it
50 > with Gentoo you've got to implement quite some things. For Debian e.g.
51 > it comes free out of the box.

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Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now Walter Dnes <waltdnes@××××××××.org>