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From: Michele Alzetta <michele.alzetta@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 17:55:06
Message-Id: CANhs-xCEmFyDk8WUgDyKxFVWGLWSR_7jPEByEexY0MOGtiLxcw@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? by Caveman Al Toraboran
1 ... seems like you're describing haskell ...
2 ... now, portage written in haskell would be really something
3
4 Il giorno ven 24 apr 2020 alle ore 14:36 Caveman Al Toraboran <
5 toraboracaveman@××××××××××.com> ha scritto:
6
7 > On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:32 PM, Michael Jones <gentoo@×××××××.com>
8 > wrote:
9 >
10 > > > No-no. C++ is a nightmare. A few people want to use it.
11 > >
12 > > C++ is an extremely widespread language with millions of lines of code
13 > written daily world wide.
14 >
15 > i think that might be misleading as it seems to
16 > imply that being a c++ dev is mutually exclusive
17 > against being a c dev (is it? the languages agree on
18 > many syntaxes/features).
19 >
20 > i think the right way of thinking is as follows:
21 >
22 > 1. identify programming features needed to code
23 > a reliable pms. i think most likely all we
24 > need is [recursive] function calls and
25 > if/else/loops. the rest probably has to do
26 > with algorithms (independent of the language).
27 >
28 > 2. pick language that has features (1) and has the
29 > largest users base. if the set of features in
30 > (1) is small enough (such as ones i suggested),
31 > then the c++ developers should be counted as c
32 > developers (because that part is common between
33 > c++ and c).
34 >
35 > 3. apply occam's razor. if two languages are
36 > equally satisfying points (1) and (2), then
37 > choose the simplest one. but if my thought is
38 > correct (that we only need the subset of
39 > features in c++ that's already in c), then c is
40 > guaranteed to have a greater effective number
41 > of developers in step (2). hence, we will not
42 > even need to apply occam's razor to remove c++
43 > (unless points (1) and (2) result in a tie,
44 > which i don't think it does in this case).
45 >
46 > > Lots of people want to use it. Just not people who want to write a PMS
47 > compliant package manager.
48 >
49 > probably same kind of people that are headed to
50 > blow their legs (and ours) in the process.
51 >
52 >
53 >

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