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From: Caveman Al Toraboran <toraboracaveman@××××××××××.com>
To: "gentoo-user@l.g.o" <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 16:08:07
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In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? by Michael Orlitzky
1 On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:35 PM, Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o> wrote:
2
3 > On 4/22/20 11:22 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
4 >
5 > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:01 PM, Consus consus@××××.net wrote:
6 > >
7 > > > Yeah, mgorny likes to do some provocative stuff like forking Portage.
8 > >
9 > > patching P*****E is heretic, and forking it is
10 > > outright blasphemous.
11 >
12 > For everyone complaining about how long emerge @world takes, and about
13 > the incomprehensible error messages -- this fork was a step towards
14 > fixing that. Portage does some slow, unpredictable, undocumented magic
15 > when resolving dependencies that it never should have done in the first
16 > place. Developers using portage then make commits that appear to work
17 > with portage, but won't work in any other PMS-compliant package manager,
18 > and often don't work in portage itself when given slightly different
19 > command-line options.
20 >
21 > Portage was forked because the current maintainers insist on leaving it
22 > broken to "avoid the phone calls." There are still problems, but this
23 > way people don't realize they're portage's fault.
24
25 i was joking. i agree with you + mgorny.
26
27 in fact, i think portage sucks so much it must be
28 rewritten from scratch, in such a way that it has
29 least run-time dependencies, so we stop worrying
30 about upgrading other packages, such as python.
31
32 e.g. perhaps gne (gne is not emerge) should better
33 be statically linked (no stupid python run-time
34 that freaks us every time we upgrade python).
35
36 just my thought. but mgorny knows much better
37 than me most likely. i like his work. and i hope
38 politics around emerge/portage gets dropped.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? Michael Orlitzky <mjo@g.o>
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