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From: Bruce Hill <daddy@×××××××××××××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:01:26
Message-Id: 20121112115939.GB17663@server
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) by Neil Bothwick
1 On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
2 > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
3 >
4 > > If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from
5 > > replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to
6 > > us, we could avoid flame wars.
7 >
8 > Unfortunately, there are times when it is necessary to point out how bad
9 > an idea is in order to help someone. Recent example: the suggestion to
10 > use dd to copy one drive to another with a different block size. While
11 > this may have worked for the person suggesting it, it is a bad idea in
12 > general and refraining from stating that could have resulted n problems
13 > for someone following that advice.
14
15 Might I suggest that it is more appropriate, and more likely to be received,
16 if it is 'pointed out' with logic, technical explanation, and courtesy.
17
18 > Surely stating the merits or otherwise of an idea is a core element of
19 > discussion, and discussion is what this list is about.
20
21 Which can (and should) be done well without sarcasm and personal attack.
22
23 > On the topic of swearing, some consider it "bad language", as you do, and
24 > I respect that view. Others consider it a means of expression (others
25 > seem to use it for punctuation, but no one is defending that). There are
26 > times that some words can add emotion or emphasis to a statement,
27 > especially when used rarely, but on a list like this there is generally
28 > little or no need for it. However, not all users of this list are
29 > native-English speakers and other cultures see use of such language
30 > different - one only has to look at the comments made on the podium of
31 > the Abu Dhabi F1 Grand Prix, made by professional drivers who are paid
32 > not to offend.
33
34 God, whom you mention in your sig, has written His law on the heart of every
35 one, so that "they are without excuse". Having visited 10 countries, and lived
36 in China for almost 9 years, my experience has been that even most heathen in
37 remote villages understand propriety.
38
39 This person doing post-grad work in a Mexican universtiy well understands.
40 But even if you doubt that, just reference his remark: "I hope it doesn't
41 offend anyone. That was not (nor is) the intention." Seems he didn't *really*
42 mean that, and will continue to offend others.
43
44 > --
45 > Neil Bothwick
46 >
47 > And on the seventh day God said :wq and then make
48 --
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55
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>