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From: Sam Pfeiffer <sammypfeiffer@×××××.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-alt] Prefix-standalone profile has upgraded into dev
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:29:11
Message-Id: CABVqfw9oE7aKau1Z0rpSOpGwdqxoFj0nVm9=yCxZAjMcrCj2VQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-alt] Prefix-standalone profile has upgraded into dev by Fabian Groffen
1 Great and exciting news!
2
3 On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 4:25 PM Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote:
4
5 > On 30-09-2019 09:28:17 +0800, Benda Xu wrote:
6 > > Jacob Godserv <jacobgodserv@×××××.com> writes:
7 > >
8 > > > Wow! This is huge! Congratulations to the Prefix team for their hard
9 > > > work and the unofficial volunteers that supported them! This has been
10 > > > so long in the making I resigned myself to it never
11 > > > happening. Incredible!
12 > >
13 > > Thank you Jacob. It has been a long journey since around ~2005
14 > > (@Fabian, correct me if I am wrong). Prefix has gradually matured over
15 > > the years, with love from all of us in the community.
16 >
17 > I joined in 2005. At that time there were a few hundreds of packages
18 > keyworded for ~ppc-macos. Main people that had been working on there
19 > (that I know of) were ferringb, kito, pvdabeel, gongloo and j4rg0n. The
20 > project started as Gentoo for Mac OS X. Around 2008 this became Gentoo
21 > Prefix (as we know it today) because a shift was made from installing
22 > "missing" software on Mac OS X in the usual locations (/usr/bin, etc.)
23 > to installing replacement software in a different location, replacing
24 > host software, and therefore relying as little as possible on that
25 > software. Initially it was easy to use Mac OS X's provided software,
26 > because it was up-to-date, but as time went, the software became
27 > outdated (think of automake/autoconf, often a problem) and problematic
28 > (Apple-specific modifications, or unfixed bugs because of old versions).
29 > Thus the only way forward was to install as much as possible Gentoo
30 > "versions", the sole aim of Gentoo Prefix.
31 >
32 > > The feeling that Prefix would remain an experimental project was real.
33 > > But as the quality of Prefix steadily grows, we could envision it to be
34 > > of production level hereafter.
35 >
36 > I'm happy to see it more mature for the Linux platforms. We've always
37 > been struggling to keep it "working". Historically, the macOS "target"
38 > was best supported, followed by Solaris, but as these platforms
39 > continued to evolve, or age, we couldn't always keep up fixing the
40 > packages and bootstrap process. Even today this is the case.
41 >
42 > There were a lot of contributors as wel as Gentoo devs that came and
43 > went over the years, making countless efforts and spending many hours to
44 > analyse, test and fix packages, processes or scenarios. For those of
45 > you, if you're still watching, your input has been vital for making the
46 > project what it has become today. It's still running, and for some
47 > scenarios still working fine/being super useful.
48 >
49 > Thanks a lot,
50 > Fabian
51 >
52 >
53 > > Big cheers to us all.
54 > >
55 > > Yours,
56 > > Benda
57 > >
58 >
59 > --
60 > Fabian Groffen
61 > Gentoo on a different level
62 >
63
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65 --
66
67 *Sammy Pfeiffer*
68 PhD Candidate at The Magic Lab within UTS.