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On 07-05-2007 09:59:02 +0200, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: |
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> On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 22:13 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: |
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> > On 19-04-2007 17:30:27 +0200, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: |
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> <snip> |
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> > > |
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> > > Maybe setting CONFIG_SHELL=${EPREFIX}/bin/bash could work too ? |
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> > Ahhh... anyone have objections on setting this in the profiles? It |
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> > would just make any configure package use bash from the prefix, instead |
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> > of /bin/sh, which feels somehow a bit safer, even though it should work |
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> > fine in theory. |
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> For AIX, most users really want prefix-bash for performance reasons. |
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> For others like Solaris, the question is: |
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> Are we willing to test/debug/fix/upstream-report such bugs ? |
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You have to stop support crappy stuff at some moment. If it's old |
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enough, no more energy should be put into working with such things, IMO. |
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> If we are, then we should keep using /bin/sh. |
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> If not, then we want to use prefix-bash. |
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> One thing to keep in mind: Who else if not prefix-portage has that power |
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> to test/debug/fix such upstream bugs on that range of platforms ? |
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Many, many, many others. But they usually tend to just workaround the |
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problem in a way that "works for them" to get the desired binary. |
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> Using prefix-bash can always be the quick workaround for such bugs, if |
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> one does not have time to debug immediately - let the user choose! |
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> So maybe we want some FEATURE, or simply introduce users on how to set |
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> CONFIG_SHELL in etc/profile.bashrc, to switch between /bin/sh and |
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> prefix-bash (defaulting to prefix-bash for aix, to /bin/sh for others) ? |
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While prefix bash may be faster/better on AIX, on darwin and sunos |
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/bin/sh is much faster (it's nearly 6 times smaller). Point here is |
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that I think you should either do it, or not do it. If AIX is |
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inherently broken, then on AIX we use prefix bash. If on Solaris we use |
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/bin/sh, we should avoid working around it (such as in gcc ebuild) to |
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keep it clean. Either it sucks, or it does not. |
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BTW, on most Linuxes today there is no /bin/sh, but only bash, so |
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actually on Linux we better use prefix-bash, simply because we have that |
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one under control, and using /bin/sh is just using a bash that we don't |
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know. |
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Fabian Groffen |
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Gentoo on a different level |
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