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From: Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Heads-up: KDEers: Particularly kde3-ers,
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:05:21
Message-Id: 200908272114.25652.volkerarmin@googlemail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Heads-up: KDEers: Particularly kde3-ers, by Frank Peters
1 On Donnerstag 27 August 2009, Frank Peters wrote:
2 > Henry Ford, the great American industrial pioneer, once remarked:
3 > "The best way to solve the problems of the city is to leave the city."
4
5 Henry Ford also praised national socialism.
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8 >
9 > But this is pure bunk. Using Openbox with a virtual desktop and
10 > the old-fashioned Midnight Commander file manager that runs in an
11 > X terminal, I could probably beat the pants off anyone, in terms of
12 > raw productivity, that is hooked on KDE or Gnome.
13
14 and I disagree wholeheartly here.
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16 KDE offers what openbox never can do: integration.
17 Also: network transparency.
18
19 >
20 > Do we all understand the ancient idea of iconoclasm?
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22 yes, and the iconoclasts were people who destroyed art and knowledge for
23 nothing. Which is a reason why they are still seen as one of the most stupid
24 elements of human history.
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26 >
27 > Iconoclasm is the disdain of imagery, because images are entirely
28 > superficial in nature and ultimately will deceive, beguile, and prevent
29 > one from ascertaining the truth. It is no exaggeration to say that KDE
30 > and Gnome (as MS Windows) are based on luxuriant visual methodologies
31 > that can only obscure the true essence of computing.
32
33 oh so wrong.
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35 >
36 > Of course, I realize that very few will accept this argument. More
37 > and more will embrace KDE or Gnome or their ilk as time progresses.
38 > The developers of X Window and even Gentoo will begin to disallow
39 > simpler configurations. Linux will then become a swampland of fantastic
40 > imagery but increasingly difficult computation.
41
42 you are free to see it that way - and please, complain to the X devs who
43 torture us with hal crap (they are mostly fedora/intel based - so you should
44 complain there).
45
46 But as someone who has used *box and enlightenment and icewm and other stuff I
47 long forgot: KDE was the first environment where I did not have to adjust all
48 and everything to be able to do stuff. No, instead I was able to spent my time
49 doing stuff.
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51 You are satisfied with openbox and mc?
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53 Well, I need konqueror and konsole and their working together. I need okular.
54 I love gwenview. And I love the fact that I do not have to learn a whole new
55 set of key-combos and config syntax for every single app I use.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Heads-up: KDEers: Particularly kde3-ers, "Jesús Guerrero" <i92guboj@×××××.es>