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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jesús Guerrero <i92guboj@×××××.es> wrote: |
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> On Sun, January 25, 2009 19:21, Tom wrote: |
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>> Hi List! |
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>> After following the thread about the icedtea build on amd64 I found |
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>> myself wondering if it would make sense for me to change to |
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>> a non-multilib setup. |
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>> So how is the status of that specific profile, how stable, and more |
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>> importantly how feature rich can it be? |
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>> Java seems to be getting close to a non issue, but what about flash for |
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>> instance? I know there's now a native 64version of adobe's plugin (I'm |
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>> using it right now) but I don't know about its dependencies. |
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>> Other things spring to mind, certain codec-packs, multimedia in |
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>> general. |
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>> And of course wine, virtualization etc. |
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>> So can anybody provide some insight into how things are generally |
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>> going in non-multilib-land?! |
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> The only difference is that no 32 bits code is pushed into your system. |
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> Which in turn means you won't be able to run nor compile 32 bits stuff at |
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> all. Wine will plainly not work. |
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> mplayer will play about everything. I haven't used win32codecs for years. |
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> However I stay away from closed formats, but the few realplayer and window |
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> media files that I needed to play could be opened without problems by |
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> mplayer without the help of external codecs. |
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> The flash alpha plugin for 64 bits works well. |
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> You should really check what 32 bits stuff you use. If you need wine you |
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> need multilib. Really, there's no advantage into going no-multilib. You |
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> only lose versatility and reduce the range of software that you can use. |
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> You could get a rough idea about the 32 bits you have installed by using |
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> file like this: |
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> file {,/usr}/bin/*|grep 32 |
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> -- |
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> Jesús Guerrero |
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Interesting commend. I understand it's rough but I don't see much. |
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I don't use Wine. I did for a while use Crossover Office which is Wine |
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based. Any idea if that requires me to install 32-bit stuff or do they |
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provide everything they need? I doubt I'll use it again so it's not |
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much of an issue one way for the other. |
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lightning ~ # file {,/usr}/bin/*|grep 32 |
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/bin/mbchk: ELF 32-bit LSB |
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executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, |
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dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
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/usr/bin/aoss32: Bourne shell script |
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text executable |
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/usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders32: ELF 32-bit LSB |
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executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, |
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dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
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/usr/bin/gtk-query-immodules-2.0-32: ELF 32-bit LSB |
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executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, |
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dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
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/usr/bin/lddlibc4: ELF 32-bit LSB |
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executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, |
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dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
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/usr/bin/linux32: symbolic link to `setarch' |
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/usr/bin/pango-querymodules32: ELF 32-bit LSB |
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executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, |
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dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
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lightning ~ # |
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Were you speaking of the Flash-10.0.21.0_alpha? Is that significantly |
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differeng from 10.0.15.3 that I have installed? |
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[I] net-www/netscape-flash |
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Available versions: ~9.0.152.0!m!s 10.0.15.3!m!s ~10.0.21.1_alpha!m!s |
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Installed versions: 10.0.15.3!m!s(02:18:34 PM 12/26/2008) |
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Homepage: http://www.adobe.com/ |
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Description: Adobe Flash Player |
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If you go no-multilib as I understand it there's no easy way to go |
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back, correct? |
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Thanks, |
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Mark |