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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: sudden sound loss
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:33:01
Message-Id: pan.2008.04.12.16.32.43@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: sudden sound loss by Raffaele BELARDI
1 Raffaele BELARDI <raffaele.belardi@××.com> posted
2 1207924415.6155.35.camel@×××××××××××××.com, excerpted below, on Fri, 11
3 Apr 2008 16:33:35 +0200:
4
5 > Actually it's the ADC/DAC that performs the mixing (the AD1986A in this
6 > case). I checked the chip specs, it supports spreading 2ch over 6ch so
7 > probably the feature is not yet supported by ALSA. Also some search in
8 > the Gentoo forums confirm this
9 > (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-414308-postdays-0-postorder-asc-
10 start-25.html)
11
12 In parallel with the other reply (which I was going to reply to but hit
13 the wrong key and deleted instead, sorry) suggesting jack, AFAIK, ALSA
14 does have software mixing for this sort of thing as well, but it involves
15 rather "deeper magic" with the various plugins than I've ventured into,
16 myself. It's apparently extremely flexible -- if you know how to setup
17 the plugins in the right order, output of one into the input of the next,
18 etc.
19
20 There ought to be documentation out there for it and I've always been
21 going to look into it, but then I got a 5.1 Onkyo amp and now just use
22 its surround mixing and send the standard two-channel out the digital PCM
23 out on the computer, via the coax, to the digital PCM coax input on the
24 Onkyo. I figure it's about the same anyway, since the source I'm playing
25 is two-channel stereo to begin with. Except, if I really knew what I was
26 doing, doing it in software on the computer side would probably give me
27 rather more flexibility, but doing it on the Onkyo has been "good
28 enough", and offloads those extra CPU cycles compared to doing it in
29 software on the computer, as well.
30
31 BTW, the going opinion (at least the going opinion on /. whenever a
32 computer audio article comes up, however you judge /that/ opinion) is
33 that it's basically impossible to get good quality on-computer sound no
34 matter /what/ board you have in the computer, simply because there's too
35 much electrical noise in there. Not that it's going to matter on say 128
36 kbps MP3s or cheap computer speakers anyway, but for good recording or
37 decent quality source and playback over a decent system, the
38 recommendation is to NOT do the DAC in-computer, but either use digital-
39 out (even on the built-in sound) and an external amp (as I'm doing now),
40 or one of those USB or firewire based soundcards, thus getting the DAC
41 out of the computer case and into its own somewhat more electrically
42 isolated environment.
43
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