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On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Frank Peters <frank.peters@×××××××.net> wrote: |
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> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:22:28 -0500 |
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> Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote: |
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>> As a professional programmer, I completely disagree with any dogma |
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>> based on "philosophy" rather than technical merits. |
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>> "So I think many of the "original ideals" of UNIX are these days more |
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>> of a mindset issue than necessarily reflecting reality of the |
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>> situation. |
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> That's not the issue here at all. The issue is the possible |
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> hegemony being imposed by systemd. Whether or not this is true |
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> this issue at least deserves some attention. |
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It's free software, as long as there is developers willing to work on |
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alternatives, there will be alternatives. |
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> Regarding the "Unix philosophy," I doubt that anyone still considers |
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> that a "pipeline of simple tools" is the ideal approach. Software |
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> has assumed gigantic proportions (to match hardware capabilities) of |
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> late and that traditional Unix model certainly would never fit. |
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Agreed. |
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> But not all software is gigantic. I would venture a guess that |
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> a large majority of programs are simple one-off concoctions designed |
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> to meet some simple individual need. In these cases it sure is nice |
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> to have the standard Unix tools available. I use them frequently |
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> for various simple purposes. |
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They are free software. You can keep them forever. |
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> Regarding the booting and configuring of a Linux system, the job can be |
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> either very complex or very simple. For the simple case, is there |
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> technical merit in having to use systemd? I would claim that there |
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> is not. For complex scenarios, by all means utilize systemd. |
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> But let's keep the appropriate tools available for the appropriate job. |
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Who's going to take them away? And besides, it is FREE SOFTWARE. Clone |
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the repositories, and keep a personal copy around forever if you like. |
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Regards. |
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Canek Peláez Valdés |
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Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias |
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Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México |
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