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Dustin J. Mitchell wrote: |
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> On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 09:02:05AM -0400, B. Nice wrote: |
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>>> I also feel a little guilty that my only contribution as an AT is to |
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>>> make fun of people trying to unsubscribe from the list. It's not |
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>>> exactly productive, and only serves to reinforce the bad rep that Gentoo |
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>>> has. |
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>> Where do people get the idea that Gentoo has a bad reputation? I've |
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> Well, keep in mind that I run in what is probably a slightly different |
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> circle -- server admins. |
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> Gentoo has a *lot* to recommend it technically for administering a |
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> server -- fine-grained control, careful management of the upgrade path, |
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> transparency, extensibility, etc. |
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> But the cultural shift is painful when folks like me try to interact |
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> with the Gentoo user or developer community. I think I'm a fairly |
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> technically adept person (hey, I passed the ebuild quiz), yet several of |
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> my bugs have been blown off fairly rudely, by developers who had |
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> obviously not read the entire bug. Of course, interactions on IRC are |
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> even worse. |
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> The result is that I don't file bugs anymore -- I make a fixed local |
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> copy of the ebuild and call it a day. Since I can't recommend that my |
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> clients and employers do the same, I set them up with a RedHat-derived |
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> base system and then hand-compile the necessary software on top of that. |
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> By way of comparison, problems I have had with specific pieces of |
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> business-critical software (vs. with the distro) have been handled with |
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> professionalism and dignity. |
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> Maybe the problem is that Gentoo devs are *too* accessible, and aren't |
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> really given a choice in the matter. Does e.g., |
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> https://bugzilla.novell.com/ see the same level of activity as Gentoo's? |
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> I imagine that a lot of the grumpy devs would probably do well just |
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> sitting in the background and coding. |
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> Those are my musings.. |
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> Dustin |
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> P.S. I should add that the amd64 group does not seem to share these |
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> difficutlies -- this list is sometimes irreverent, but never insulting. |
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Hi, |
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I have opened this thread by accident, pls excuse if I'm butting in. I |
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now have Gentoo running on alpha, x86, the laptop, amd64 and soon to be |
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mips. I subscribe to all lists tho' I rarely post.. |
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When I first started a few years ago coming from Debian, the users where |
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very helpful but I to was intimidated with some kirt remarks. I think |
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one should remember gentoo can be an intimidating system |
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Gavin |
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